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Constitutional Cruz Control
Boston Globe ^ | January 11 2016 | Laurence Tribe

Posted on 01/11/2016 7:56:28 PM PST by ironman

There's more than meets the eye in the ongoing dustup over whether Ted Cruz is eligible to serve as president, which under the Constitution comes down to whether he's a "natural born citizen" despite his 1970 Canadian birth. Senator Cruz contends his eligibility is "settled" by naturalization laws Congress enacted long ago. But those laws didn't address, much less resolve, the matter of presidential eligibility, and no Supreme Court decision in the past two centuries has ever done so. In truth, the constitutional definition of a "natural born citizen" is completely unsettled, as the most careful scholarship on the question has concluded. Needless to say, Cruz would never take Donald Trump's advice to ask a court whether the Cruz definition is correct, because that would in effect confess doubt where Cruz claims there is certainty.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; ineligible; naturalborncitizen
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To: JSDude1
You should find a cure for your CDS.

I'm just sayin. Cruz has never denied it.
21 posted on 01/11/2016 8:23:30 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: JoSixChip

You don’t really believe all that stuff.


22 posted on 01/11/2016 8:24:04 PM PST by demshateGod (Trump for press secretary! Cruz for president!)
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To: ironman
CRUZ CONTROL...I hadn't even thought of that.
Shows my gender for sure. :o)
23 posted on 01/11/2016 8:24:06 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: CatherineofAragon

I think some lost their tinfoil to make more hats.


24 posted on 01/11/2016 8:25:05 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: ironman

Tribe is one of the smartest people in America today and more honest then most leftists ( which he is). But his biases still come through -— and he’s entitled to them as much as I’m entitled to laugh at them ( and he, mine). Tribe manages to include a line that fears of a tryannical takeover by someone loyal to a foreign power — no longer make sense to him, apparently. Regardless of whether he thinks such fear makes sense, however, it was very much a concern of our Founders — and it is a great concern today under the current washDC regime (indeed, professor Tribe gives away his awareness of the Obama problem - by including this throw- away line in his essay). Ha! At any event, I’ve no concern about senator Cruz’s loyalties — so that it will indeed be ironic if the constitution is actually applied to him when it has been totally side- tracked for Caliphe Obama , who just happens to be , reportedly anyway, politically in league with mr Tribe (whose essay at least gives me this impression, too). I do agree with Tribe on his opening and closing main points - that Cruz -(as obsma) is not eligible but that courts will bend over backwards to avoid saying so if he’s elected. ( asking for a declaratory judgment in advance won’t work - there’s good legal principles that courts can use to avoid issuing an outcome- determinative decision in advance-—— that proposal has the appearance of political opportunism , IMHO). We will see.


25 posted on 01/11/2016 8:26:05 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Diff tween D's and R's is that the thatD's allow the poor to be corrupt, too. (O. Levant)
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To: demshateGod
You don't really believe all that stuff.

It is no more out of the realm of possibilities then the crap you have been posting about Trump. What goes around, comes around.
26 posted on 01/11/2016 8:27:52 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: kik5150

love the graphic but what if after Cruz left the presidency in two terms those clubs read Syrian father,dual national,American mom?


27 posted on 01/11/2016 8:28:26 PM PST by magna carta
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To: ironman

Ouch. That one is going to leave a mark.


28 posted on 01/11/2016 8:28:28 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: kik5150

That’s funny.


29 posted on 01/11/2016 8:30:39 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: CatherineofAragon

The person you just posted to should be ignored. There’s a defective chip in his name and in his brain.

He deals only in mindless insults. I do not intend to respond to him again and advise you to do the same.


30 posted on 01/11/2016 8:33:07 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: demshateGod

No, I don’t believe he does.saying it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility means that it also can be. He has an angle, but I have to admit, I am baffled by what that might be.


31 posted on 01/11/2016 8:36:09 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: altura

You’re a smart lady.


32 posted on 01/11/2016 8:37:01 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("Ted Cruz is the type of guy to swim across a moat with a knife in his teeth. He knows how to fight")
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To: CatherineofAragon

These Trumpsters are going way overboard on Cruz....I refuse to believe they would vote for him if Trump loses.....what a farce! At least they should come clean and say they wouldn’t!


33 posted on 01/11/2016 8:39:14 PM PST by caww
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To: faithhopecharity

I know Larry Tribe, and he is NOT one of the smartest people in American, unless “smartest” is construed to include anyone with an IQ of 125 or better. Tribe is articulate and knowledgeable, but his “learning” and judgment are seriously limited by his political commitments. Moreover, he is a plagiarist (yes, he has been caught and had to apologize) and not a genuine scholar. He occasionally surprises - for example, by admitting that Roe isn’t grounded in the Constitution. That’s about as much as can be said for him.


34 posted on 01/11/2016 8:45:42 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: caww

I have been wondering about a few of them.Most seem to be okay with Cruz if Trump is not the nominee. Others seem to just freak out at the mere suggestion. Is Clinton / Sanders their ultimate goal? God, let us hope not.


35 posted on 01/11/2016 8:48:30 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: ironman

If Oblahblah is legal Cruz is legal, if not then everything Oblahblah has done must be rolled back.


36 posted on 01/11/2016 8:49:04 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Cruz 2016)
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To: ironman

Discussing this is a serious waste of time.


37 posted on 01/11/2016 8:52:46 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Cruz 2016)
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To: demshateGod
Does anyone think Cruz has foreign loyalties?

Nope. It's not like he has a thing for Kenya.

38 posted on 01/11/2016 8:58:17 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: GrouchoTex
Yes, some 'say' so...but like Trump they're beginning to sound just like him...half truths and a lot of blather....I certainly won't be voting for Trump ....Cruz is the ONLY true Conservative running....y vote will remain right there on steady ground.


39 posted on 01/11/2016 9:14:48 PM PST by caww
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To: WilliamRobert

Discussing this is a serious waste of time.


Waste of your time posting here.


40 posted on 01/11/2016 9:23:36 PM PST by ironman
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