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Germany on the Brink
The New York Times ^ | January 9, 2016 | Ross Dothan

Posted on 01/11/2016 5:11:38 AM PST by Petrosius

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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Can any thinking human being believe that this was not entirely intentional? Like Obama, Merkel is no idiot. To quote Hillary (albeit reluctantly), “It requires the suspension of disbelief” to think that Merkel’s policies, like those of Obama, were not entirely intentional and that they are having the desired outcome.

Obama, at least, was completely transparent in this intent to “transform America”, the preeminent political, military and economic force in the world. Germany, likewise, had a similar position vis-à-vis the European Union, which begs the question: Who - and what - comes next?


21 posted on 01/11/2016 6:33:36 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Travis McGee; pepsionice
" If the Germans rise up against their extermination, she hangs from a lamp post. "

Gotta say I'll be cheering for them this time around, if

That's the point, if. We're on the other side of the ocean and most of us have no insight into what people are saying and talking about in private. Most of us don't have relatives in Koln or Stuttgart.

Also, speaking for myself, we have no way of knowing if the rumors, etc, of "You wouldn't believe the number of weapons and small arms that are still stashed away here and there in Germany" are true or just BS.

For example is there a German UKIP party or any other kind of leadership about to assert itself?

Or... no action... you know... I hate to say it... "following orders"?

Or as Pepsi suggests, is there still a possibility of peacefully (So far as the Germans are concerned, they're the ones being invaded. Screw the invaders IMO) turning it around like right now?

22 posted on 01/11/2016 6:49:56 AM PST by OKSooner ("Once you come to terms that Obama's not on America's side, everything he does makes sense.")
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To: Petrosius

National suicide. We lived in Germany for 6 years and it was wonderful. We would not even visit now.


23 posted on 01/11/2016 6:52:58 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: Petrosius

Note that as date the number of complaints has risen by a factor of four or five. Trying to locate yesterday’s article reporting this.

So yet again the NYT is soft peddling actual facts.

from:

http://m.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-1070894.html
DPA

January 7 2016

An internal police protocol has revealed the full extent of the violence in Cologne on New Year’s Eve. According to the report, which SPIEGEL has seen, officials were overwhelmed and powerless to help some people calling for help.

Law enforcement officials lost control of the situation in Cologne on New Year’s Eve, according to an internal report by Germany’s national police, the Bundespolizei, obtained by DER SPIEGEL. The author of the report, dated Jan. 4, is a senior official. He writes: “Women, accompanied or not, literally ran a ‘gauntlet’ through masses of heavily intoxicated men that words cannot describe.” The horde in front of and inside the train station was unmoved by the presence of police.

According to the report, officers encountered many distraught, crying, frightened pedestrians, particularly women and girls. They reported “fights, thefts, sexual assaults against women, etc.” Groups of male migrants were repeatedly named as perpetrators.

Identifying those responsible — especially the perpetrators of sexual assaults — “was unfortunately no longer possible.” The reason: “Security forces were unable to get all of the incidents, assaults, crimes, etc. under control. There were simply too many happening at the same time.” Police were frustrated at their inability to help each victim. At times, it wasn’t even possible to record all of the complaints that were being lodged.

The report lists several examples of police officers’ experiences:

Officers were hindered from pushing their way through to people calling for help by tight clusters of men.

A man is quoted as saying: “I’m a Syrian! You have to treat me kindly! Ms. Merkel invited me.”

Witnesses were threatened when they provided the names of perpetrators.

People reportedly demonstratively tore up residence permits in front of the police, grinned and said: “You can’t touch me. I’ll just go back tomorrow and get a new one.”

The report did not, however, confirm the authenticity of the documents.

Orders for people to leave the premises were ignored; taking repeat offenders into custody was not possible due to lack of resources.

After track closures due to overcrowding, people simply forced their way over adjacent platforms and train tracks back to the closed platform.

Physical fights broke out as trains were being boarded; it was “every man for himself.”

The situation, which was described in the report as “chaos,” was so out of control that there were concerns about serious injuries or even deaths, according to the author. That is why the operation leader decided to clear the square. The report notes that police officers were “bombarded with fireworks and pelted with glass bottles.” Even after the square was cleared, there were “repeatedly multiple physical confrontations between people as well as groups of people, thefts and robberies in several places at the same time.”

The author of the report draws a grim conclusion:

The actions of the police officers was met with a level of disrespect “like I have never experienced in my 29 years of public service.”

Because too few officers were on the scene, the ones that were present “reached the limits of their abilities pretty quickly” — their deployment lasted from 9:45 p.m. until 7:30 a.m.

As central problems facing law enforcement, the report cites overwhelmed police officers, insufficient personnel and weaknesses in equipment, which were “not to be expected.”

The author describes the entire situation on New Years’ Eve as “chaotic and shameful.”

In the days since the New Year’s Eve attacks, Cologne police have received more than 100 complaints.

In an initial statement on the morning of Jan. 1, the police press department noted that the situation on the prior evening had been “relaxed.”

Cologne Police President Wolfgang Albers later admitted that “this initial statement was incorrect.”


24 posted on 01/11/2016 6:56:46 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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BBC News

Cologne attackers were of migrant origin - minister

January 11, 2016

The men suspected of attacking women in Cologne on New Year's Eve were "almost exclusively" from a migration background, mainly North African and Arab, an official report says.

Cologne police also made "serious mistakes" in not calling reinforcements and the way they informed the public.

More than 500 criminal complaints were filed, 40% alleging sexual assault.

....continue reading at link

25 posted on 01/11/2016 7:11:49 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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To: SamAdams76

Hitler was a mOslim


26 posted on 01/11/2016 7:22:20 AM PST by Therapsid ( would rather have HER beside mw)
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To: petercooper

Can anyone advise me of risks for a female attending a trade fair in Frankfurt? There is really NO information anywhere. Why is our State Department not issuing travel advisories for Germany???


27 posted on 01/11/2016 7:28:04 AM PST by George Smithson
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To: Petrosius

most recently through a deal with Facebook and Google to restrict anti-immigrant postings

Aiding and Abetting TERRORISTS!!!!


28 posted on 01/11/2016 7:46:02 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: OKSooner

Germany has six significant political parties....of which only one is anti-immigrant (AfD Party).

This party started out six years ago as the anti-EU/anti-EURO party. Last year, they fired their creator, reinvented the party to be anti-immigrant instead. The problem with the AfD party is that it’s a one platform group...tied to some Nazi elements, but they are the only party that says no on Merkel’s policy. Nationally, they hold ten-percent of public support.

With March state elections coming up (three of them), there’s a suggestion that the public may walk through the five parties and give the AfD guys some frustration votes and really unhinge the Berlin leadership. Even if they took 15-to-18 percent of each state’s election....it’d really refocus the whole episode.

From a business and procedure point, the whole thing has turned into a ‘merkeling-episode’. That’s the new German word for 2015 which means you have a problem, but mostly talk about it and do little to nothing over it....watching it change and modify itself....but never acting. That’s pretty much the whole immigrant episode now.

The only solution that might change this....is Assad leaves Syria and ISIS craps out because of Russian actions. Stranger things have happened and maybe it’s asking for a lot....but that’s the only sure-fire fix right now.


29 posted on 01/11/2016 7:58:31 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Bogie
The real show is in the comments.
I am surprised they still allow comments there. Most newspapers do not allow comments anymore under any articles related to the “refugees.” At those that still do, you can see why: There is a lot of seething anger everywhere; anger at politicians, who created this problem, and at the press which tries to paint a happy face on everything, trying to sweep all problems under the rug. If it wasn’t for Facebook, nobody would have ever heard of the Cologne thing.
30 posted on 01/11/2016 9:46:39 AM PST by cartan
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To: Petrosius

The is no such thing as a “labor shortage”. There is a price point where you can get labor for an endeavor. There is a shortage of “cheap labor”.


31 posted on 01/11/2016 9:51:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
66% of the Migrants are young Muslim males who have been raised in a culture where women are disrespected and are less than 2nd class citizens. What did Merkel expect from this group? She should be kicked out of office.

From the images I saw the 66% is really 96%. Where dd you get that 66%?p.


32 posted on 01/11/2016 9:55:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: George Smithson

If it’s not mandatory, I would not send my daughter.


33 posted on 01/11/2016 11:28:15 AM PST by petercooper (Coexist my ass!)
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To: cartan

In the past few weeks I’ve seen a few comments deleted. They were generally references to Hitler or or a version of it. Though this very
“Fluechtling” issue, seems to tap into what was a driving force behind the popularity of “Mein Kampf.” Without the economic forces behind actual fascism, that is.


34 posted on 01/12/2016 12:03:35 AM PST by Bogie
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