Donald Trump Targets Ted Cruz [and it's helping Cruz]

Wall Street Journal ^ | January 10, 2016 | Heather Haddon and Janet Hook

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Donald Trump is taking aim at Republican presidential rival Sen. Ted Cruz, a tactical shift that could be risky on two fronts: It may have come too late, and the Texas senator might actually be benefiting from the attacks......

For Mr. Cruz, being under attack by other Republicans is a badge of honor, another backer said. "It's a quasi-endorsement of Cruz to the grass roots," said Saul Anuzis, former Michigan GOP chairman.

Polls show a growing number of Trump backers see Mr. Cruz as their second choice. Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler said that when the campaign began, polls showed that only 4% of Trump backers saw his boss as their second choice. A new poll by NBC/SurveyMonkey finds that number has risen to 39%.

The latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll found that 66% of Trump voters said they would consider supporting Mr. Cruz -- far more than other major candidates....

[kinsman redeemer]

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[Baynative]

I’ve been on and off the fence between Trump and Cruz. But when I saw Trumps rambling trashing of Cruz in the Iowa rally my opinion of him dropped considerably.

[Yosemitest]

"Cruz did not fulfill that definition since his father was not in that situation when he was born."

WRONG !

Well, what does the law say?

The ABC's of Immigration: Citizenship Rules for People Born Outside the United States

All persons born in the United States are citizens of the United States (with the very minor exception of certain children of diplomatic personnel).
This is perhaps the only simple rule of US citizenship.
One of the most complicated areas of US citizenship law involves the passage of citizenship to children born outside the US to one or more US citizen parents.
While naturalized US citizens are treated like natural born citizens,
which includes those who are deemed citizens even when born outside the US, in almost every respect,
there is one important office that only natural born citizens can hold - the presidency
(though expect to see efforts in Congress to change this if Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger decides to run for President).
Also, a person who is a citizen from birth cannot be denaturalized (though denaturalization rarely ever occurs).

The rules determining when such children are citizens are extremely detailed,
and vary a great deal depending on when the child was born since the laws changed several times in the 20th century.

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What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.

When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,
the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,
with five of the years after the age of 14.
An EXCEPTION FOR PEOPLE SERVING IN THE MILITARY was created
by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,
amendments since 1952 have ELIMINATED these requirements.

Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen mother were US citizens
if the mother was resident in the US for a period of one year prior to the birth of the child.
Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen father acquired US citizenship
only if legitimated before turning 21.

So HOW does Ted Cruz's situation apply to this Law ?

The term "natural born citizen" refers to whether the person was a citizen at birth or became a citizen through naturalization.

“Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,” said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a “natural born” American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.

When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".
They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.

Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956), so clearly she meets the residency requirements.

Cruz's father, who was born in 1939 in Matanzas, Cuba, "suffered beatings and imprisonment for protesting the oppressive regime" of dictator Fulgencio Batista.

Source
... 74-Year-old Rafael Bienvenido Cruz:

"I came to this country legally," Cruz's father says.
"I came here with a legal visa, and ... every step of the way, I have been here legally."


In an interview near his home outside Dallas, the elder Cruz says that as a teenager, he fought alongside Fidel Castro's forces to overthrow Cuba's U.S.-backed dictator, Fulgencio Batista.
He was caught by Batista's forces, he says, and jailed and beaten before being released.
It was 1957, and Cruz decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.

"Then the only other thing that I needed was an exit permit from the Batista government," Cruz recalls.
"A friend of the family, a lawyer friend of my father, basically bribed a Batista official to stamp my passport with an exit permit."

The Rafael Cruz that his son Ted portrays is a kind of Cuban Horatio Alger
- - arriving in the U.S. with only $100, learning English on his own and washing dishes seven days a week for 50 cents an hour.

"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says
of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."

Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.

"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."

The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 -
48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?
"I don't know. I guess laziness, or - I don't know," he says.

Peter Spiro, a legal expert on U.S. citizenship at Temple University, says Rafael Cruz followed "sort of a zigzag path to citizenship."
Spiro says Cruz's multicountry odyssey did not follow traditional models for immigration.

Citizenship Through Naturalization is different than Citizenship Through Parents, and you need to understand the requirements.
For a better understanding of both, go to those links.

Watch these "YouTube Videos" and form your own opinion.



Ted Cruz, and Principles Over Winning | "Glenn Beck Program" ( 2:24 )


Ted Cruz is just getting started ( 4:33 )


Ted Cruz Announces His 2016 Presidential Run ( 2:06 )

[JayGalt]

Truly it is unkind to answer you since you do not even understand the things you post in response, prove the point that I have made. I will not do you the unkindness of responding again.

[elhombrelibre]

So anyone who doesn’t support Donald Trump is DU? Kind of a totalitarian view you have, Doughty.

[Yosemitest]

No. I understand perfectly.
But LIARS like you, who try to DISTORT the truth; now that's TRUELY EVIL !

[odawg]

“...and that treat LEGAL Immigrants with the fairness and respect they deserve.”!!!!!?????

BS from Cruz. You and Cruz evidently don’t think Americans, in general, deserve fairness and respect. Why should Americans live their lives to just to satisfy immigrants.

Could you stop wasting your time with these asinine posts. I certainly don’t read them. I high-lighted the above because it so easy to break in and find more BS from you and Cruz.

[Yosemitest]

You can lead a Jack@$$ to water (knowledge), but you can't make him drink !

[odawg]

Knowledge? Jackass?

You flatter yourself, prick.

[odawg]

“But when I saw Trumps rambling trashing of Cruz in the Iowa rally my opinion of him dropped considerably.”

What was he saying about Cruz? Reminding Iowans of Cruz’s voting for the Obama agenda whenever he gets a chance? His waffling on immigration?

Why is it that some people cringe when anyone says anything critical of Cruz? It is amazing to behold.

[lodi90]

What was he saying about Cruz? Reminding Iowans of Cruz’s voting for the Obama agenda whenever he gets a chance? His waffling on immigration?

Why is it that some people cringe when anyone says anything critical of Cruz? It is amazing to behold.

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This “thou shall not criticize” Cruz meme is absolutely Obamaesque. We don’t elect kings. Cruz made his bed on TPA, H-1B and other issues. It’s 100% correct to call out on the actions of a sitting U. S. Senator. Cruz did far more damage enabling Obama’s TPA than any of Trump’s hot air ever did. Yet we’re not supposed to engage the issues? Nonsense.

[Baynative]

He was going on and on about Cruz not being a citizen. This “birther” trap is something I would have told him to avoid. It will come back to haunt him when the media reminds voters that he was one of the ones pushing this issue against Obama, who many still love even though they aren’t committed to Hildabeast.

[odawg]

It will come back to haunt him when the media reminds voters that he was one of the ones pushing this issue against Obama, who many still love even though they aren’t committed to Hildabeast.

If the media reminds voters that Trump pushed the eligibility issue against Obama, it can only help him.

According to some, we now have two are are beyond criticism, Obama and Cruz.

[Baynative]

Indeed, it is a quirky game. Especially, when dealing with such a large media driven audience.

Fox just released a poll showing 55% of the women asked think Bill Clinton respects women compared to 31% for Trump.

[odawg]

You have to consider the source, who did the polling, and what was the question. Fox does not like Trump.

[JayGalt]

Its so sad that you feel the need to either attack or post so large that the presentation obscures the material. I respect you for your service but not for your snap judgements about people based solely on whether they seem to support your positions. I am very careful in posting to give supporting links or state that something is an opinion.

I think as I have stated many times that Cruz is an excellent man and a resource for our country. Some of his positions have troubled me but in no way do I want him attacked or marginalized over the birth right citizen issue. I think that there is considerable support that the Founders and many judges established the requirement for a President/Vice president to be a natural born citizen requires him/her to be born of two American citizens. This has traditionally included birth in the USA but has been extended to those out of the country on our counties service.

There is no lying here no intent to distort. I think your posts sidestep the issue while establishing Ted Cruz’s citizenship they neglect the issue of natural born being defined as of two American citizen parents. That position is actually spelled out in some of the material you have posted. The literature is replete with people who have played fast & loose with the definitions, intermingling them fallaciously. So its easy to find quotes with that approach. If you return to the sources two citizen parents are always specified when the distinction between citizen, citizen at birth and natural born citizen are distinguished. Additionally the correspondence of the Founders at the time is clear in their intent.

My preference would be for the issue to be defined and congress and the parties to sign off on the standards that are so defined. The Founders were trying to protect our country from being damaged by leadership contaminated by foreign allegiances. If Obama had been held to the standard of two citizen parents a great deal of damage to America could have been avoided. If congress decided to grandfather Ted Cruz and hold the line from this time forth I would be quite satisfied. I am not against Ted Cruz, I am against the erosion of our constitutional protections.

As an aside why are the majority of the books on your about me page related to Clinton?

[Yosemitest]

"... based solely on whether they seem to support your positions.
... I think that there is considerable support
that the Founders and many judges established the requirement
for a President/Vice president to be a natural born citizen
requires him/her to be born of two American citizens"

WRONG, mister OVER INFLATED EGO !
Take it up with the Supreme Courty of the United States and our Founding Fathers.
ORIGINAL SOURCES show that, not only I, but THEY TOO, DISPUTE YOU !

In 1798, the law on naturalization was changed again.
The Federalists feared that many new immigrants favored their political foes, the Democratic-Republicans.
The Federalists, therefore, wanted to reduce the political influence of immigrants.
To do so, the Federalists, who controlled Congress, passed a law
that required immigrants to wait fourteen years before becoming naturalized citizens and thereby gaining the right to vote.
The 1798 act also barred naturalization for citizens of countries at war with the United States.
At the time, the United States was engaged in an unofficial, undeclared naval war with France.
The French government thought the United States had taken the side of Britain in the ongoing conflict between Britain and France.
A related law passed in 1798, the Alien Enemy Act, gave the president the power during a time of war to arrest or deport any alien thought to be a danger to the government.

After Jefferson became president (in 1801), the 1798 naturalization law was repealed, or overturned (in 1802).
The basic provisions of the original 1790 law WERE RESTORED except for the period of residency before naturalization.
The residency requirement, that is, the amount of time the immigrant had to reside, or live, in the United States, was put back to five years, as it had been in 1795.

The 1802 law remained the basic naturalization act until 1906, with two notable exceptions.
In 1855, the wives of American citizens were automatically granted citizenship.
In 1870, people of African descent could become naturalized citizens, in line with constitutional amendments passed after the American Civil War (1861-65)
that banned slavery and gave African American men the right to vote.
Other laws were passed to limit the number of people (if any) allowed to enter the United States from different countries,
especially Asian countries, but these laws did not affect limits on naturalization.

Within a decade of adopting the Constitution, immigration, and naturalization in particular, had become hot political issues.
They have remained political issues for more than two centuries.

Did you know ...

Naturalization laws relate to the process of immigrants becoming a citizen.
Other laws have provided for losing citizenship -
- by getting married!
In 1907, Congress passed a law that said a woman born in the United States (and therefore a citizen) would lose her citizenship
if she married an alien (who was therefore not a citizen).
In 1922, two years after women won the right to vote,
this provision was repealed and a woman's citizenship status was separated from her husband's.

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[major-pelham]

Of course they should but you have no guilty party do you? There wasn’t any eminent domain was there? Your blaming private business for the actions of pols? I agree with you on the Kelo principle but only government oficials can do that. No one else.

[Yosemitest]

"... but you have no guilty party, do you? "

What the hell are you talking about ?
The Government's administrator, be it that city government, that state government, or the federal government, WHOEVER TAKES the individual's private property, JUST to give it to ANOTHER COMPANY for generating a lager tax base, IS THE GUILTY PARTY !

"There wasn't any eminent domain was there ?"

Like HELL there wasn't !
"EMINENT DOMAIN" was the rule they were trying to TWIST INTO JUSTIFYING their action !

"Your blaming private business for the actions of pols?"

WRONG !
Can't you get ANYTHING right ?
I'm blaming THE GOVERNMENT, be it that city government, that state government, or the federal government !

[JayGalt]

But yet again you don’t get it. The post you just sent is about citizenship. We are in complete agreement about citizenship. While not knowing all the facts it appears very unlikely that Cruz’s mother renounced her citizenship before his birth and he is, by the Laws and practice of America, an American citizen through his Mother at birth, although in the case of a foreign birth documentation needs to be provided to confirm the facts of the case.

What you are glossing over is the salient point that to become President or Vice President of the United States requires a special form of citizenship, natural born citizenship which has been defined and described as a child born to two American parents on American soil, although there are exceptions as to place of birth, as in the case of diplomats or people serving America overseas. America ignored that definition and constitutional requirement at it’s peril with Obama.

The media shaming and the court stonewalling of people that wanted to have the issue addressed starting in 2007 resulted in a President with foreign allegiances holding sway over the country for 8 years. The damage at home and abroad is staggering. We cannot be cavalier about the need for our Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates to have two citizen parents. It is a safeguard against putting in power someone with a divided allegiance which was addressed by our Founders and can be seen in their writings and correspondence and in the writers such as Vatel that they drew from in writing our Constitution. No matter how able a man Cruz is another incursion upon the Constitution will endanger America for the future.