Posted on 01/06/2016 2:47:33 PM PST by saleman
Managers at Wal-Mart stores in Texas have a new task to add to their list of duties: asking customers if they have a permit to carry a handgun.
To comply with state liquor rules, the worldâs biggest retailer sent a written notice last month to stores that sell alcohol, telling managers to ensure that customers who openly carry firearms under a new law have licenses. Cashiers or door greeters who see someone with a gun are to alert the highest- ranking employee, who is to approach the customer and ask to see the paperwork.
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Yes In Texas the new law only allows open carry for those who have a concealed carry permit.
Ironically, you'd have to go up to socialist Vermont for that. The Texas law is far from ideal, but it's something, and the ball is rolling. Now we gear up for round two.
How legal is it for civilians to be asking people that? I’d have assumed that would be the job of Peace/Police officers.
I wonder when the first Walmart will have a thug shooting not stopped by a bystander because the store employees would not allow a gun in it?
Seems there are some lawsuits coming up.
You could say KMA ma’m/sir but I’m pretty sure they would ask you to leave. It’s not illegal for someone to ask you anything. Well pretty much anyway
“Why do they call it a âglove boxâ anyway?”
Allegedly:
Originally it was a box or compartment where gloves were kept when not in use.
In the early days of the automobile, automobiles were pretty much open, dirty, and unheated. This necessitated the use of gloves which might be unneeded upon arrival at the destination.
Michigan didn’t have a federally appointed carpetbagger government after the civil war which enacted draconian handgun laws. It has taken us this long to roll them back, but we are still fighting and moving in the right direction. Note that in Texas you can carry a rifle openly without a permit.
I used to have a Michigan CPL when I lived there. I live in a non-issue state now. While back in MI, I reviewed the open carry law.
One must possess a CPL to open carry.
No, they’ll just tell you to leave.
“Yeah, well, the law actually applies to businesses that derive 51% of their revenue from alcohol sales...and even then, to Ethanol sales specifically (so, rubbing alcohol doesnât count).
Wally=world is barking up the âpolitically correctâ tree.”
This is the deal. In Texas if you sell alcohol for consumption off premises it is a special offense with extra penalties to have a handgun/weapon without a license (the signage is blue and white and different than the 30.06 and 30.07 signs and different than the 51% signs). But if you have a CHL (it is now called an LTC -license to carry by the way) then you are licensed and the law doesn’t apply to you. Totally different regulation from the 51% rule which basically acts like a 30.06 and 30.07.
For those of you out of state that think all of the different signs are ridiculous-think again. Because the legislature made the requirements on the signs so specific- concealed carriers can ignore any other sign as long as the property owner doesn’t ask you to leave. Those guns with the slash thru them- well it makes the hippies feel better but doesn’t mean a thing in Texas.
“Actually, Sheila Jackass is a transplant from New York City. “
So Texas has been “infected” by the East Coast too! Our “notables” here in CA are Babs Boxer (Brooklyn, NY) and Nazi Pelosi (Baltimore, MD)
I wonder if the managers know the penalty for pretending to be cops.
Umm, either they allow open carry or they dont. The proper way to opt out is by displaying the proper signage. I don’t know a whole lot about Walmart but I suspect there’s not many out there that collect 51% plus of their revenue in alcohol sales.
So, Wally managers are going to get told to pound sand a whole lot and probably draw more than one lawsuit.
The law is very specific about who can ask you if you’re licensed to carry a weapon and I don’t think Walmart managers are on that list.
Back in 2006 I talked with a good friend who was the head of plant security at my plant regarding my carrying a concealed weapon into the plant (against company policy). He had no problem with it considering it was on Detroit's east side.
Eddie was also a reserve police officer in Roseville. When I brought up the fact that open carry was perfectly legal, he never knew about it. After checking with his fellow officers in Roseville, none of them knew that open carry was legal in Michigan either.
Open Carry had never been an issue because it was assumed there were laws against it. But the true fact is that it's always been legal to open carry in Michigan since there has never been a law passed to prohibit it.........
You may want to double check that. More than 51% of their sales is alcohol, which makes it illegal to carry in their stores.
Who doesn’t love Ray Wylie?
RE: Shelia Jackass - trust me, regular folks would love to kick this P.O.S. out of Texas. Sadly her gerrymandered district has always been mostly full of idiots.
One must possess a CPL to open carry.
If you're talking about Michigan, I'm sorry but there is absolutely no law on the books, both present or past, that prohibits one from openly carrying a firearm if they are legally allowed to own one.
Oh, well.
Their loss.
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