Posted on 12/30/2015 2:08:55 PM PST by Kaslin
I wish I could say I'm shocked, but this is New York. It's an anti-gun state. Of course, some local legislators were going to try and regulate the sale of ammunition (via Brooklyn Daily Eagle):
State lawmakers from Brooklyn announced on Monday new draft legislation aimed at tightly restricting the sale of ammunition in New York.
The Senate and Assembly bills were drafted in an effort to keep potential terrorists from stocking up on ammo, according to sponsors state Sen. Roxanne Persaud and Assemblymember Jo Anne Simon. The twin bills are backed by Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, who worked with Persaud and Simon to craft them.
The legislation would place a strict limit on the number of bullets a gun owner could purchase over a 90-day time period, and prevent gun dealers from selling ammunition for a firearm to anyone unauthorized to have such a weapon.
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Since the measure would cap the amount of ammunition to no more than twice the amount of the capacity of the weapon every 90 days, these gun owners would be limited to buying a dozen bullets every three months.
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Penalty for the violation of this law would also be increased from a Class B misdemeanor, or not more than three months in jail and not more than $500 in fines, to a Class E felony, or up to four years in prison with a minimum of one year.
Now, back in the day, I would have said that gun owners and Second Amendment enthusiasts should come to Virginia, but that’s before Attorney General Mark Herring decided to mess with our concealed carry reciprocity agreements. Nevertheless, there are plenty other pro-gun states to relocate to if you can.
Nevertheless, it goes without saying that this law is just absurd. First of all, anyone with a firearm who is barred from owning one via federal law is, uh, (shocker) breaking the law. Most, if not all, FFL dealers call the local police and the ATF if a flagged person is identified on the NICS system during a background check. So, the ammo provision is redundant. Second, it's a logical fallacy that people who buy ammunition in bulk have pernicious intent. Some people spend an hour or more at the range. Hundreds of rounds of ammunition could be spent during that period.
Since legislators can't ban or confiscate guns, a few are either taxing them out of existence or drafting these nonsense ammo regulations to prevent law-abiding citizens from exercising their Second Amendment rights.
New York already has a so-called assault weapons ban and limits all magazines to ten rounds. It was originally seven rounds, but a judge struck down that provision, viewing it as "an arbitrary restriction" that violated the Second Amendment." Oh, and the fact that seven-round magazines don't exist.
Very. Just look at their voter base...................
BONUS: there are no tolls on the I-84 Hudson River crossing if traveling WEST. Save eight bucks, I believe.
I wouldn’t try to make primer. Hat is, if you appreciate your fingers.
36 an hr some one needs more need more practice. Or a better press
I take my time. Drink some wine. Smoke a cigar.
It’s a fun process.
The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America.
Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president.
2008 Czech Newspaper Editorial
New York State is spending a lot of money on TV ads proclaiming New York as the pro-business state.
Meanwhile they seek to pass stupid bills like this into laws that will drive consumers into doing business in other states and put small business owners in NY out of business.
Depending what I am loading up 600 rounds a hr. I have 5 progressives and others 50 dies sets.
Yes it is relaxing
Ya’ll come down to S Carolina, get yourself some fireworks, some cigarettes and some ammunition. You can also drink any size soft drink you like here. You see, we like Ya’ll (and your money!)
Another black market opportunity. Wonder if the sell them?
LOL
Don’t drop ash into your powder trickler.
thanks for cheering me up,,,
On the contrary, these laws serve a variety of purposes. Notice that a lot of these laws do a few things. They criminalize, harass and demonize gun owners for essentially being gun owners.
The left is just writing laws that are forcing their political enemies (gun owners in this case) to either: violate the law, live with huge and unreasonable restrictions, or just cease owning guns. In any case, they will most definitely have caused a change in your behavior as a gun owner.
Maybe not a perfect analogy, but I see this as similar to what was done to smokers by the anti-smoking activists and their politicians. Smoking was once widely accepted in society. In just a few decades however, it had been transformed into some sort of shameful and deviant act. How did this happen? Well, in addition to a steady drumbeat of shaming by the antis, there were more and more taxes levied on tobacco. Also, there was a tightening of laws regarding the sale of tobacco. Third, there was an avalanche of laws and other rules regarding where a person could smoke. At many workplaces today, you will see smokers huddled together in small groups outside at "designated smoking areas" while getting rained on, etc. They are now a shunned and deviant minority. I believe that the antigun forces want the same for America's gun owners.
Back to the gun laws, they have other positives for the anti crowd. If anything, they are a big morale booster for the antis because those pesky gun owners "got theirs" at the hand of the law. Second, they impact the existing gun and ammo sellers in the affected area. Those stores will most likely be driven out of business. Look at the recent law passed in Seattle (and upheld in court) that placed a big tax on ammo. It will serve to drive the remaining three or so Seattle gun stores out of business.
One thing that I regularly see is people on the pro-gun side arguing about these laws by pointing out that they won't do anything to reduce crime, and that all they really do is make life hard for law-abiding gun owners. Are you sure that wasn't the point?
The liberal bastards will stop and NOTHING to get “guns” eliminated and by cutting off the supply of ammunition, guns are somewhat useless.
I just have a single press. I can do a couple hundred rounds in a sitting.
I would love a progressive. But my wife has started asking for receipts when I bring more gun toys into the house. Picky, picky, picky.
“They did not learn their lesson from taxing cigarettes so high either.”
They never learn their lesson. We go over to PA for cigarettes and fireworks. We drive on down to NJ for gas ($.40 cheaper per gal.) and clothing because NJ has no sales tax on clothing, while it’s 8.25% upstate. And now that NY has to comply with CA emissions standards, we all go out of state for exhaust system repairs on our cars. So now we’ll go out of state for ammo, as well. Those pesky unintended consequences that the libs can’t seem to figure out.
I have a friend who claims to make a decent living at it in his “retirement”.
Then when these laws intended to disarm their political opponents don’t stop the next mass shooting they will claim the ammo came from out of state rather than admit that criminals DONT FOLLOW LAWS.
My wife gave up asking decades ago
Besides crap, what do these people use for brains?
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