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To: editor-surveyor
The angels that have wings have had them for at least 6000 years. Angels are not people that have died.

Correct! Angels were present at the creation (Job 38:4-7) and were shouting for joy, praising the LORD for it.

Therefore, angels could not and cannot be people.

Jesus Christ: You can't impeach Him and He ain't gonna resign.



110 posted on 12/27/2015 9:09:11 PM PST by rdb3 (Cool. All I know is, no, you can't use it.)
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To: rdb3
Correct! Angels were present at the creation (Job 38:4-7) and were shouting for joy, praising the LORD for it.

Therefore, angels could not and cannot be people.

BS. Check the last footnote.

============================================ Job 38:4-7New International Version (NIV)

“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
    Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
    Who stretched a measuring line across it?
On what were its footings set,
    or who laid its cornerstone—
while the morning stars sang together
    and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

Footnotes:

  1. Job 38:7 Hebrew the sons of God ============================================

    Let us look at the "Sons of God" mentioned in Genesis 6:2, 4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7 and Psalm 89:6. We will find that they are NOT angels.


117 posted on 12/27/2015 9:25:58 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: rdb3

There is a distinction you are missing. You are correct that angels are not people who have died, but it does not follow that angels are not people.

The classic definition of person comes from Boethius—”An individual substance of a rational nation” and there are actually, at least from the Catholic tradition, three classes of persons: non-Created (there are three of those), created spiritual substances (angels, both non-fallen and fallen), and those having bodies—i.e. men.

Angels (and demons) are people too—but you are correct that they are themselves, and not something else which has been transformed.


119 posted on 12/27/2015 9:29:49 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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