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Cruz's debate win means it's intervention time for Trump supporters
The Hill ^ | 12/1715 | Ed Zipperer

Posted on 12/17/2015 4:26:22 PM PST by VinL

Are you a conservative? Are you rocking so much conservative street cred that you chose to stay home rather than vote for Republican nominees Mitt Romney in 2012 or John McCain in 2008 because you consider them undercover liberals, a couple of donkeys outfitted with fake trunks? Do you look at the big government left and the big government right and have trouble telling them apart? Do you currently support Donald Trump?

If you answered "yes" to the above questions, this intervention is for you.

I don't want to make you angry. I don't want you to make you scream at me on Twitter. I don't want to make you call Rush Limbaugh and tattle on me. I just want to show you how your support for Trump is affecting the people who care about you and what the consequences will be.

According to the Mayo Clinic, you can't argue with facts or with my "emotional response to the problem," so I'm going to try to do this using Mayo Clinic intervention-approved "I" statements.

I was upset and hurt when you supported Donald Trump because ...

No real conservative has emerged from a Republican primary since Ronald Reagan. George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney — let's face it, the establishment has dominated the primary for a long time. No surprise. That's whom it was invented to cater to.

But now — thanks to President Obama's incompetence — the pendulum is swinging hard to the right. According to the Realclearpolitics average, only 43 percent of Americans approve of the job the president is doing. This is finally the time!

Right now, you, the conservative base of the Republican party, have the best candidate they've ever had. Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) is smart, he's a great debater, he isn't afraid to mention Jesus in his ads and he never backs down on his positions. He's Voldemort-level character in the minds of most Democrats (Voldemort is the bad guy from that book you probably told your grandkids not to read. They read it anyway).

Cruz outshined every other candidate in last night's debate. He was strong on foreign policy without promising to trample the Constitution. You love the Constitution! Remember?

Cruz schooled Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) on illegal immigration:

There was "a time for choosing," as Reagan put it. Where there was a battle over amnesty and some chose, like Rubio, to stand with Obama and [Democratic New York Sen.] Chuck Schumer and support a massive amnesty plan. Others chose to stand with [Republican Alabama Sen.] Jeff Sessions and [Iowa Rep.] Steve King and the American people and secure the border.

He outlined conservative priorities:

Cutting taxes, cutting regulation, unleashing small businesses and rebuilding the military to defeat radical Islamic terrorism — our strategy is simple. We win, they lose. We've done it before and we can do it again.

Cruz is the first bona-fide conservative candidate I've seen in my lifetime who stands a chance of making it all the way to the White House. But, instead of seizing the opportunity to elect a true conservative, you have chosen to cast your primary vote for Trump.

I was upset and hurt when you supported Trump because ...

Trump wants to grow the size of government, spend massive amounts of taxpayer money and trample the Constitution.

He uses Democratic Party talking points to attack true conservatives. Last week, he called Cruz a "maniac." Last night, he walked it back, but only because it gave his conservative supporters a glimpse of who he really is.

Cruz believes what you believe. Trump pretends to believe some nasty caricature of what polling data told him you believe.

I was upset and hurt when you supported Trump because ...

The big-spending establishment Republicans failed us. The politically correct, identity-politics-obsessed bigger-spending liberals failed us. In 2016, America will finally be ready for a conservative voice, but that voice won't be there. Instead, we'll hear the voices of Trump and probably Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton arguing over whose version of single-payer universal healthcare is better. There will be no conservative voice and, ironically, it will be you who silenced it.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: VinL

Thanks. I appreciate your concern, but you Cruzites are every bit as condescing with your candidate as the GOPe is with theirs. I’m with Trump.


141 posted on 12/17/2015 7:26:24 PM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: VinL

I am getting sick and f$%^ing tired of establishment f*%#ing pukes telling me it’s time to f^*@ing dump Trump.

F($^ you all, stupid sh%&bag a$%holes!

YOU are the reason Trump resonates. He is the antithesis of YOUR f%(#ing unwillingness to stand up for what is right.

You only want Trump dumped so you can attack Cruz next, motherf#($ers. Kiss my motherf@#!ing a$$.


142 posted on 12/17/2015 7:30:14 PM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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To: Axeslinger

Wow - Your post is ENTIRELY off-topic.

Not enough or too much of something?


143 posted on 12/17/2015 7:33:45 PM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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To: VinL

Cruz won the debate?


144 posted on 12/17/2015 7:36:17 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: VinL
Trump and Cruz have clearly indicated they have a non-aggression pact. Each believes that is the best way forward. Some of their supporters, however, think they are smarter than their leader.
145 posted on 12/17/2015 7:37:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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To: VinL

Huh? What is this silly article? Cruz was decent, but he and Rubio practically cancelled each other out. Trump did exactly what he needed to do.


146 posted on 12/17/2015 8:13:19 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; randita; yongin; campaignPete R-CT; cripplecreek
"Cruz believes what you believe. Trump pretends to believe some nasty caricature of what polling data told him you believe."

Author's name is Ed Zipperer. Unusual surname.

147 posted on 12/17/2015 8:47:38 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Trump supporters have no reason to be angry. He is now polling over 40% nationally. It is time to have a party!


148 posted on 12/17/2015 11:47:45 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump 2016! Pick strongest on immigration control - Santorum as VP.)
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To: usconservative

You have good thinking power. Bravo!


149 posted on 12/17/2015 11:50:13 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump 2016! Pick strongest on immigration control - Santorum as VP.)
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To: VinL

About the only thing the article points out to me is how truly bizarre this election is turning out to be.


150 posted on 12/18/2015 12:01:12 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
...how truly bizarre this election is turning out to be....

Man ... you can say that again, Brother FReeper. If Trump gets the nomination, it's time for conservatives to turn off the lights and hit the road.

151 posted on 12/18/2015 12:35:06 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: entropy12

Did Trump flip flop on immigration?


152 posted on 12/18/2015 2:31:01 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: entropy12

Universal healthcare is your big issue? Well, Trump promises to take care of you. I can see why you like him then.


153 posted on 12/18/2015 2:46:39 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: MortMan

Um - wow ...do you just selectively read posts or what? My post was a direct response to the humblegunner’s....pretty much point by point. Try to keep up.


154 posted on 12/18/2015 3:35:06 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: be-baw
This guy's name is Zipperer? Really?

A few days ago, we were treated with a screed from a guy named "Rackoff". I think they are friends.

155 posted on 12/18/2015 3:43:11 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: VinL
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/263477-poll-35-percent-say-trump-won-debate

Donald Trump was the winner of Tuesday night's fifth GOP presidential debate, a new poll says.

Thirty-five percent of registered Republicans think Trump won the contest in Las Vegas, according to a One America News Network survey released Wednesday.

Trump won the debate, according to GOP primary voters.

156 posted on 12/18/2015 3:49:08 AM PST by ScottWalkerForPresident2016
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I fear you are right, hence why I don’t trust him. He really has no record, except a progressive one, of actions, to back up his word.

Unlike Cruz, who does have a very strong conservative record not just in speaking, but in actions AND a past that shows he’s been literally groomed for the best position to defend the Constitution.


157 posted on 12/18/2015 4:59:53 AM PST by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: VinL

The “Cruz surging” act is wearing a bit thin. This is a Wile E. Coyote try at derailing Trump - aint happening. Go away!
Go Trump Go!


158 posted on 12/18/2015 5:25:16 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: usconservative

Very well stated. I’m in complete agreement.


159 posted on 12/18/2015 7:05:07 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: humblegunner
I like the baked ones, them battered women make all manner of mess on the cooking surfaces.

ROTFLMFAO!!!

160 posted on 12/18/2015 1:57:12 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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