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Millions up in smoke: NY has nation's highest cigarette tax; why do so few pay it?
Syracuse Post-Standard ^ | 12/13/15 | Teri Weaver

Posted on 12/13/2015 5:45:30 AM PST by jalisco555

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Some questions just answer themselves.
1 posted on 12/13/2015 5:45:30 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555

Anyone who thinks about this will be a Laffer...


2 posted on 12/13/2015 5:48:55 AM PST by null and void (muslims don't kill people, Climate Change kills people!)
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To: jalisco555
Some questions just answer themselves.

Apparently not if you are a liberal.

3 posted on 12/13/2015 5:50:27 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: jalisco555

My mother’s brother, who was a smoker, and his wife (who wasn’t) lived on Long Island. We lived in Virginia.

Every three months or so, we would get a visit from them—Which was great because they were super people.

During these visits my uncle would stock up on cigarettes—dozens of cartons—because tobacco taxes were so much lower in Virginia.

This was back in the late 60’s/early 70’s.


4 posted on 12/13/2015 5:51:06 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: jalisco555

Nothing more than legal prohibition. This was a women’s issue just like alcohol.


5 posted on 12/13/2015 5:53:08 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: jalisco555

Imagine $10.00 per pack. I used to smoke 2 packs daily (I quit in 1985 when two packs cost me $1.40 ($.70 each)

At $10.00 each or $20.00 daily it comes to $600.00 per month or $7,200 annually.

How that in and of itself does not cause people to stop is beyond me.


6 posted on 12/13/2015 5:53:22 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: jalisco555

Economics 101 aka things that liberals nannystaters fail at.


7 posted on 12/13/2015 5:53:28 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: jalisco555
I often wonder if any liberals took a economic 101 course....ever
8 posted on 12/13/2015 5:57:31 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Arm_Bears

Mastic Beach in Suffolk county on Long Island has the poospatuck Indian reservation. Cheap cigarettes and gasoline.


9 posted on 12/13/2015 5:57:40 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. .c)
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To: jalisco555

New Yorkers drive up to New Hampshire to buy cigarettes and Booze as they pay a bundle less there then drive back to N.Y.
My folks use to do the same only we lived in Los Angeles and would drive to Tijuana for a booze run.
less than half and NO federal taxes.


10 posted on 12/13/2015 6:01:14 AM PST by Joe Boucher (the only good mooselimb is a dead mooselimb.)
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To: jalisco555

Good news for the indians.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/after_ny_tax_hikes_indian_shop.html


11 posted on 12/13/2015 6:05:34 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: billyboy15

I re-started hunting in 1976 (had started in the mid 60s then stopped in the late 60s). The land I had access to was hilly and steep... There I was at 27 huffing and puffing from climbing the steep hills. Quit smoking that season and never looked back. Plus I saved the cost of 2 packs a day. The health benefits now that I’m in my mid 60s are most certainly there.

Win, win. Smoking should be a personal choice but my recommendation is that nobody should do it.


12 posted on 12/13/2015 6:07:59 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. .c)
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To: Popman

In liberal Econ 101: just increase the tax to cover the lost tax from those buying elsewhere to avoid high taxes. Simple


13 posted on 12/13/2015 6:09:36 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: jalisco555

Like gun laws....

Cig laws have no impact on those who really want them (and cheaper).


14 posted on 12/13/2015 6:09:44 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: jalisco555
The bridges and tunnels into Manhattan have gone up to 15 dollars. A semi with 4 axles will pay 60 dollars to cross, The attorney general sniederman announced that he has banned virtual football in NY because he sez its a game of chance instead of he cant seem to get his vig from these companies who run it. Its not enough that the players if they win pay thier tax, The mayor wants as many Syrian refugees as possible, he, right after the calif massacre announced that he is reaching out to the muslim communites to calm thier fears, decade democratic leader shelly silver convicted of fraud, arrogant smug elitist governor who knows better than you on anything and everything. The parasites need a host to survive.
15 posted on 12/13/2015 6:10:20 AM PST by ronnie raygun (If we dont stand we will fall hard)
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To: Popman

“I often wonder if any liberals took a economic 101 course....ever”

Here is one (former) liberal who did take an Ecocn 101 course and much later wrote a very enjoyable book about the same.

http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Rich-A-Treatise-Economics/dp/0871137607
P.J. O’Rourke

This is also excellent!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ
EAT THE RICH! Bill Whittle


16 posted on 12/13/2015 6:10:55 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: jalisco555

I don’t smoke so *this* isn’t an issue for me but I live less than 30 minutes from a *huge* shopping mall in sales-tax-free New Hampshire.The only major purchase on which I’ve paid state sales tax in the last 5 years was on a couple of cars.And I’m *moving* to New Hampshire soon so *that* will never happen again.


17 posted on 12/13/2015 6:11:39 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: billyboy15
Imagine $10.00 per pack.

I visit NYC regularly and I believe,but am not certain,that they have a *city* cigarette tax there as well as a state tax.In the city I routinely see $12 a pack.

18 posted on 12/13/2015 6:14:18 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: jalisco555

I can’t wait to see what the NY political mafia cook up to try to get that revenue back!


19 posted on 12/13/2015 6:15:51 AM PST by Wheelman81
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To: NYRepublican72

All liberals know what they are doing-

there are quite a few Demon rat cities and
states that are doing what New York is doing-

because they hate big tobacco-(allies with the repugs)

BUT THEY do not hate:

1. marijuana for the masses
2. free needles for illegal drugs
3. gambling everywhere
4. free condoms- and sex classes to minors
5. and of course Tax (O’bummer care) to pay for abortions

See- liberals knew that New Yorkers would not pay that outrageous tax- they just hate big tobacco


20 posted on 12/13/2015 6:17:25 AM PST by mj1234
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