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Seaworthiness of New Destroyer Under Scrutiny
Associated Press ^ | November 30, 2015 | David Sharp

Posted on 11/29/2015 11:24:59 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: tanknetter

And, to add, the Germans were something of a special case, given that they built under (and circumvented) the Versailles restrictions. The Panzershiffs weren’t Battleships in any sense of the word, the Scharnhorsts were more akin to undergunned battlecruisers or overgunned large cruisers (like the Alaskas) with the Bismarks being the only ships comparable to other nations WWII BB classes.


41 posted on 11/30/2015 11:11:40 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Spktyr

The claimed design displacement.

The Lexington class carriers claimed design displacement was around 30k or 33k. But they were considerably higher in execution.

The SoDaks were an interesting case in cramming the guns and machinery into a very short hull. They were seriously cramped and overloaded ships, not really considered successful. The preceding Washingtons, which started design as 14” gun ships, were in many respects better.


42 posted on 11/30/2015 11:16:41 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Timber Rattler

“So what happens if the onboard computer stabilization system is knocked out, either in combat or by electrical failure?”

That system is unlikely to fail unless there is a general systems/power failure. In that case, in combat, the ship is effectively neutralized anyway for all military purposes. And a sitting duck.


43 posted on 11/30/2015 11:25:57 AM PST by buwaya
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To: tanknetter

Hah.
So it was all about keeping billets.
Interesting how many important decisions (this isn’t one of them, who cares what the ships are called, but there may well have been others in the procurement/force design process) that are mostly about penny-ante concerns.


44 posted on 11/30/2015 11:29:18 AM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

It’s been a few years since last I was at sea but I recall “losing the load” to be an unfortunately frequent occurrence. It’s a very unsettling experience to find yourself in a silent, completely dark metal box that is moving around under you. Mr. Flashlight was my friend.


45 posted on 11/30/2015 11:30:30 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: buwaya

Funny enough, when the Iowas were recommissioned in the 80s one of the rationales was they provided four more O6 SWO sea command billets.

The USN now has more O7s and above than they have ships.

Just sayin’

However there’s no way that the Zumwalts are “destroyers”. They are only called that because they were intended to replace the VLS\Land Attack Spruances with an Aegis-equipped variant that would have the CG designation and replace the Ticos.

IOW it was all PR and spin nonsense to help get and keep the program funded. Just like the F-35 light attack jet being called a “fighter”


46 posted on 11/30/2015 11:36:27 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

“The USN now has more O7s and above than they have ships.”

That is pretty sad isn’t it. The bloat of bureaucracy everywhere, with more chiefs than indians in every part of life. Private sector included.


47 posted on 11/30/2015 11:55:03 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Billthedrill

My daughter served on a supply tender that tended to lose power at odd moments.

I found it rather appalling this ship was also ordnance resupply for the carrier group.


48 posted on 11/30/2015 12:55:53 PM PST by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Sad. That class of heavy cruiser was very tough and also very beautiful.


49 posted on 11/30/2015 2:32:03 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

This series was almost a 4/5 of a BB, it seemed.
The Des Moines was a public relations ship. It never fired a gun in anger.


50 posted on 11/30/2015 6:43:28 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Of the three sisters, USS Newport News saw extensive combat providing gunfire support off Vietnam. Suffered a turret explosion in the center gun of it’s #2 turret that was never repaired.


51 posted on 11/30/2015 7:00:39 PM PST by tanknetter
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