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Seaworthiness of New Destroyer Under Scrutiny
Associated Press ^ | November 30, 2015 | David Sharp

Posted on 11/29/2015 11:24:59 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Vinnie
The deck is going to be awash 50% of the time in any weather.

It appears, however, that there's no purpose to being on deck. All access seems to be internal.

And, after all, the paint-scraping can be done at anchor, in port.

21 posted on 11/30/2015 3:39:56 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: .IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Rashputin
If 600 ft. long and 15000 tons is a destroyer, how damn big is a cruiser ?

Once the missile leaves the tube, does it really care how big the ship was that carried it into the fight?

22 posted on 11/30/2015 3:54:45 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Rummyfan

Where is the anchor? Coming out of the bottom?


23 posted on 11/30/2015 4:13:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The Navy has built a modern version of the tumblehome that utilizes computers to aid in stability, much like the Air Force used computers to transform a flying wing — the B-2 bomber — into a stable aircraft. “The technology today makes that concept doable and much more efficient,” Polmar said.

So what happens if the onboard computer stabilization system is knocked out, either in combat or by electrical failure?

24 posted on 11/30/2015 4:21:45 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Travis McGee

Today’s ‘cruiser’ is the size of a WWII battleship. We saw one going through the ‘manning of the ship’ in Mississippi. Huge things.


25 posted on 11/30/2015 4:24:58 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: Travis McGee
Maybe on the stern?
26 posted on 11/30/2015 4:27:10 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

That is one ugly ship. I pity the crew that has to man it.


27 posted on 11/30/2015 4:52:08 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: rstrahan

fyi wwii BBs were 50k tons and up.


28 posted on 11/30/2015 4:56:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I recall when the Cruiser Des Moines was to be brought up to Duluth to become a tourist destination. Liberal Goody-Twoshoes in Minnesota shouted this down and the Des Moines was scrapped.


29 posted on 11/30/2015 5:01:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Rummyfan

Looks more like a sub than a destroyer.


30 posted on 11/30/2015 5:14:14 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Tonytitan
Which is exactly why I don't see any point in going much, if any, beyond the size of the largest Burkes.

JMHo

31 posted on 11/30/2015 7:09:48 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Flick Lives
Flick Lives wrote:

"Looks more like a sub than a destroyer.

In the original design, the DD21 stealth destroyer was supposed to have buoyancy tanks which would allow it to settle lower in the water for an even stealthier profile when needed. I don't think that made it to the final plans.

Being a former squid myself, I'm not crazy about these new sissy-looking boats. I still like the design of my old destroyer, the Charles F. Adams DDG-2. Now THAT was a bad-ass looking boat!


32 posted on 11/30/2015 7:48:24 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: central_va

Might want to go look again, several of the battleships that saw action in WW2 were under 30K tons displacement.


33 posted on 11/30/2015 10:35:47 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
I stick with my story. The major bb's that actually were worth a crap were all over 40K tons most over 50K tons. The "pocket" BB's of Nazi Germany were not really BB's.

The Yamato was 62 k tons!

34 posted on 11/30/2015 10:40:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: buwaya

I’d lean towards calling it a Panzerschiff. But there’s not a chance in Hell of that happening.


35 posted on 11/30/2015 10:44:13 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: central_va

The Japanese Fuso class was under 30K at time of construction and despitee multiple upgrades were still under 35K at the time they were both sunk at the Battle of Suriago Strait.

The Japanese Kongō class battleships all started off at under 28K and finished the war out at under 32K. In fact, most Japanese battleships were well under 50K.


36 posted on 11/30/2015 10:48:03 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Timber Rattler

As I understand the problem with tumblehome is that
less water is displaced as the ship lists thus not
providing as much righting moment naturally.
I can see where this could be countered by computer
through fins or counter flooding of water tanks but
that only works when it works...

Glad I’m not a sailor.
I was a soldier of the Sea however.


37 posted on 11/30/2015 10:48:26 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: buwaya

The Ticonderogas were built on Spruance class Destroyer hulls. In fact the first few Ticos were laid down as DDGs before the decision to reclass them as cruisers. Which happened in no small part to preserve the sea command O6 billets in advance of the decommissioning of the Leahy and Belknap class cruisers (which themselves had started life as Destroyer Leaders/DLGs, being reclassed as cruisers upon the retirement of the WWII legacy cruisers and CG conversions.)


38 posted on 11/30/2015 10:49:22 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: central_va; Spktyr

The lower-tonnage WWII battleships were WWI battleships that had been upgraded due to restrictions and the “building holiday” imposed by the London and Washington treaties.

The “true” WWII battleships are the post-holiday construction ships. For the US it would be the Washingon, South Dakota and Iowa classes (and Montana, if you want to be technical about it) for the US, the KGVs and Vanguard for the RN and the Yamatos for the IJN.


39 posted on 11/30/2015 10:59:12 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

The Iowa class’ design displacement was under 50K as well - 45K. South Dakotas were 35K.


40 posted on 11/30/2015 11:07:54 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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