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Victims of Colorado Springs shooting attack identified ( Records are now SEALED)
www.wptv.com ^ | 11-29-15 | AP

Posted on 11/29/2015 7:34:55 PM PST by NoLibZone

Edited on 11/29/2015 7:37:18 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — The latest on the shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado.

A friend says of one of the three people who died in a shooting at a Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic was an Iraq War veteran who had recently left the military.


(Excerpt) Read more at wptv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: abortion; colorado; coloradosprings; coverup; deathpanels; obamacare; plannedparenthood; prolife; robertdear; shootings; stemexpress; tyranny; victims; zerocare
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To: Yashcheritsiy

PFL


61 posted on 11/29/2015 9:03:28 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Ben Carson - the safe space candidate)
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To: altura

Either that designation on the voter card was a computer error or he put it on there to see if it would be accepted. I doubt that he was transgender.


62 posted on 11/29/2015 9:04:11 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: crosdaddy

LOL

((sorry))


63 posted on 11/29/2015 9:05:54 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

“I am going to assume they were killed in the parking lot; another man shot had “accompanied” someone to PP and was sitting in his car outside.”

Then I think the black Vet killed was there with the black woman who couldn’t find her boyfriend after it was over. When I saw her the next day and she still could not find the boyfriend, she was still in shock over what happened. She appeared nervous and would cry. She was there to get an ultrasound so she must be pregnant.

The killer is supposed to appear in court tomorrow. I wonder if the court room will be sealed and no one let in.


64 posted on 11/29/2015 9:05:58 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: NoLibZone

False flag event? Sure sounds like one.


65 posted on 11/29/2015 9:06:43 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I read about his narrow escape but can't remember if from inside PP or the parking lot. It must have been close because the victim, who was injured but able to drive to help, made eye contact.

I've been reading more posts. It could have been (un)friendly fire. I knew as soon as I saw active shooter and PP, the Republicans would be blamed for it if they could. They are saying the rhetoric about selling baby parts and the films was enough to set off somebody. And all the shootings at PP lately. I only know of this one. And the one before that was Tiller, so maybe I am missing something.

Squirming out of the films and turning it against the ones doing the filming was typical I guess. It doesn't matter that it was all true.

66 posted on 11/29/2015 9:06:52 PM PST by Aliska
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To: NoLibZone

We need more details. The scanner indicates where dispatch is reporting victims. They may have fled to those locations OR have been shot there. They do say “last update we got was in King Soopers parking lot actively shooting.” However, with the Fog of War and idiot civilians calling in panicked crap, who knows what happened.

Plus, I can bet we’ll never find out. The meme of the ‘Planned Parenthood shooting’ will rule the day from now until eternity.


67 posted on 11/29/2015 9:11:07 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Chode

bits and snibbets from the feed:

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LE Unit:”One victim in parking lot at King Supers, one at Elite Vision and one in front of planned parenthood....

LE Unit: Just got shot at, He’s behind planned parenthood.

LE Unit:Between Kings Supers and PP...

LE Unit:Pinned down...He’s behind his vehicle..need to get somebody to the north to keep him from coming around

LE Unit:Suspect is at SW corner of the building, shooting at officers.

...come in from the east...

Dispatch: 41 he’s between King’s Supers and PP...

LE Unit: He’s barricaded behind the PP building...

LE Unit: Block north and southbound...nobody in or out...

LE Unit: Get ahold of kings soopers and stores in the vicinity and have them lockdown.

LE Unit: In relation to Chase Bank where is the shooter?

LE Unit: Still behind Planned Parenthood?

LE Unit: I need to make sure he stays pinned down behind planned Parenthood and doesn’t come around behind us...


end partial transcript. each ... or line feed represents a break in the transcript, sometimes a large one.

This is only a small part of the conversations LEOs were having, and believe me I have a greater appreciation for what the people on the job were doing trying to lock down an active shooter situation and keep the public from diddy-bopping into the middle of it.

That said, early on this started and unfolded in the parking lots of the businesses nearby, shifting to Planned Parenthood during the shootout.

Calling this the “Planned Parenthood” shooting only makes it appear that they were the focus of the shooting episode, but that is not where the shootout started. If that was the objective, you would think the shooter would have pulled up at the Planned Parenthood building and gone directly in instead of shooting three people before getting to the back of that building.

The following is a comment from the link with the audio feed (scroll down):
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Augest West:
I do not think Planned parenthood had anything to do with this man’s motives. Unles the XXX missed their mark. In other words he was placed in that area to look like he was attacking them but did not enter the building. According to people who spoke to this man he never mentioned them or spoke about politics. They did say his language was erratic going from one subject to another but he never had spoken about being an active shooter like others have before their attacks. IE: Columbine. He supposedly lived in a small shack without electric or water, Now was this due to money? It’s cold up there! Or was it due to him trying to be environmentally conscious? He had a record of supposed peeping tom & animal cruelty, {Dear was in a standoff with police for several hours. He never made it past the lobby of the Planned Parenthood building because of a locked security door. A security guard had already left for the day.

Dear shot six responding police officers, wounding five and killing one. The other officers are expected to survive. He also killed two civilians, who have not been identified. The 15 Planned Parenthood staffers inside the building were not harmed.} If he wanted in that building when he got there all he had to do was shoot out the glass. OK, I JUST READ THAT HE WAS LIVING IN AN RV WITH A WOMAN AND WAS LIVING IN A SHACK WHEN HE WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA. HE IS ORIGINALLY FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. MEDIA INFO IN ONE DAY HAS SO MUCH BULL CAP OUT THERE. If he did say “NO MORE BABY PARTS” Then maybe he was upset about that. MAYBE??!!


End comment above.

If that comment about all of the wounded being officers except the two ordinary folks killed is correct, and the Planned Parenthood office comment is correct, whatever went down was anything but an effective assault on a Planned Parenthood Clinic. It started at Chase Bank, and went from there toward the Planned Parenthood clinic building, and much of the gunplay was apparently outside the building.

Releasing details would hurt the agitprop value of the event, but they will come out.


68 posted on 11/29/2015 9:12:50 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Because they don't want the truth coming out that this was a botched bank robbery

Do you have any sources on this? Keep hearing about it here, but haven't seen a source. The MSM must be supportive of giving PP some sympathetic publicity so they are going along with the narrative.

69 posted on 11/29/2015 9:14:41 PM PST by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: TheDon

People who were in the area have been posting all over facebook that this started off as a robbery and that he came out firing at police and ran into the PP Office..also the police scanner of the crime in progress said that there was a robbery at the Chase Bank


70 posted on 11/29/2015 9:18:09 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Smokin' Joe

add another four injured non-LE.


71 posted on 11/29/2015 9:18:18 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: VerySadAmerican

This guy has lived in a house for about a year (IIRC) without running water or electricity. So how would he even hear all this “incendiary” truth about PP’s sale of baby parts? People who knew him said he didn’t talk about that stuff and sat alone. His shooting was not at anybody at PP, who he left alone even though he could have shot up the place badly if he had really wanted to so it doesn’t fit the narrative. The narrative doesn’t fit what was on the police scanner, according to reports by Freepers who listened to the scanner.

The stories and the look of the guy in his mnugshot make it seem obvious that the guy was “troubled” at the least and a doper. But the official narrative makes sense only with the political narrative that Obama would want (anti-gun, Christians are the real terrorists, etc) and not with either common sense or what was on the scanner.

Again. So who/what do you believe? I think I would need to hear a tape of this guy before I’d believe either the media or the cops. Sad, but both entities are vulnerable to politicization. Remember Clarence Dupnik in AZ when Jared Laughner shot Gabby Giffords and killed Judge John Roll? Nothing he said fit the facts but it did fit the democrat’s pre-planned narrative, and it fit the timeline of some other covert crimes by government officials - as if these things were coordinated. Once it’s known that the Obama regime coordinates with political operatives in law enforcement positions, it kills the credibility of law enforcement and media claims where the evidence isn’t allowed to be exposed.


72 posted on 11/29/2015 9:19:14 PM PST by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Also, bullet proof glass in PP.


73 posted on 11/29/2015 9:19:45 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: MileHi

This guy seems like a total fraudster to me. Dark SUV?
He lives in a shack. What was Mr. Dear driving?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1232666/Planned-Parenthood-shooting-witness-recounts-horror.html

A live witness who says they were by a Chase Bank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nqIAdicCpY

This is the gunman witness who saw the shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXoVUjyj-8c


74 posted on 11/29/2015 9:20:57 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: NoLibZone

Let’s see- The Springs and N. Carolina? What is the common link?


75 posted on 11/29/2015 9:21:14 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: Smokin' Joe
thx... OUTSTANDING synopsis
76 posted on 11/29/2015 9:22:44 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: bolobaby

Within the last hour or so, Fox News mentioned the “baby parts” comment, which seems fake to me.


77 posted on 11/29/2015 9:26:52 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: butterdezillion

How did he know about ‘baby parts’ is a good question?

He was in Colorado because of the pot laws. He was a major stoner and had posted on pro-pot websites.

Really strange. The guy at 30 seconds into this clip seems like another fraudster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vkiXNbSdco

Is this the next level of political astro turf?

Take a tragic crime or nutcase and turn it into a political motivation?

Leftists have been celebrating this attack all week. They want it to be a Timothy McVeigh-style / Clinton boomerang. Bill Clinton blamed that attack on Rush at the time and the governor of Colorado did the same thing with this one.


78 posted on 11/29/2015 9:27:33 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I found a partial transcript of the call at post 68

There is also a link to the police scanner of the same in another post.

The MSM could be reporting it properly, rather easily. Only on FR can you get the truth.

79 posted on 11/29/2015 9:27:52 PM PST by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s a bit like the so-called Waco Biker Shootout, we really don’t know what happened and it’s all sketchy.


80 posted on 11/29/2015 9:29:58 PM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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