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Guns in cars: lethal danger (Barfer- paper blames the victims of crime)
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Posted on 11/28/2015 2:30:47 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

Afterward, police chiefs and agency heads should have used Steinle’s death to warn their ranks to follow proper procedures by securing firearms in cars — or better yet, to avoid leaving guns in cars. That did not happen. In August, UC Berkeley Police Chief Margo Bennett left her gun in her car while she went jogging. It was stolen. Next, thieves boosted guns from a Hayward cop’s car in Oakland and a California Highway Patrol officer’s car in San Francisco. There is a word for leaving guns where anyone can grab them: sloppy.

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Notice how these papers never blame the illegal aliens and/or the criminals perpetrating these acts?

My car is my car. How soon before they apply this same "logic" (for lack of a better word) to one's home?

1 posted on 11/28/2015 2:30:47 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Is this all the safe spacers have to complain about?


2 posted on 11/28/2015 2:33:51 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Who is fact checking the state controlled, leftwing media's fact checkers?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have seen an AWFUL lot of Perry Mason episodes where the murder weapon is a gun left in the glove compartment of a convertible. So maybe they have a point.


3 posted on 11/28/2015 2:33:52 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They know very little about carrying a gun. Since I don’t want a federal rap for carrying in the post office, I leave my guns locked in my car.
East and west coast newspapers should recuse themselves from writing on this topic since they know just about enough to be dangerous.


4 posted on 11/28/2015 2:37:17 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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>>How soon before they apply this same “logic” (for lack of a better word) to one’s home?

Liberals already do. How many times have any of us been lectured to by some lib friend who gets on the subject of home defense and asks the stupid question, “Is anything in your house really worth killing a human being for?”

My answer is always, “Every single thing in my house was bought with money earned by trading a piece of my finite life to an employer. So, theft of an object is theft of a part of my life. I’ll kill any MF who breaks in, even if they only want a can of green beans. If they need something, they can knock and ask.”

But, in answer to your question, their “logic” already assumes that what is yours is community property.


5 posted on 11/28/2015 2:37:26 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They can’t help it, you are tempting them with nice stuff!


6 posted on 11/28/2015 2:37:42 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Red in Blue PA

people driving cars cause a whole lot more deaths
than
people using the few firearms that are stolen from cars


7 posted on 11/28/2015 2:38:08 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: Bryanw92

Spot on post.

I cannot stand the people who say “it’s just stuff”. No, it’ a part of my life.


8 posted on 11/28/2015 2:43:02 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Bryanw92

Good answer.
Anyone else anticipating nosy questions from lib family or friends or just sheep over the holidays about your confounded sheepdog ways, see Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry Paperback – October 22, 2012 by Massad Ayoob


9 posted on 11/28/2015 2:45:23 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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i have a small gun safe cabled to my front seat under the mat. anytime i HAVE to leave my gun it is locked and hidden. i am looking for an inexpensive .380 for a console gun by my right knee when driving. just throw a towel to cover it up. basically an anti car jacking gun until i can dig out (winter clothes and seat belts) my carry gun. accurate to 3.5 m max and if it’s stolen it isn’t as expensive as a GLOCK.


10 posted on 11/28/2015 2:46:03 PM PST by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

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It just has to be the fault of the honest person when one of their miscreants kills someone.
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11 posted on 11/28/2015 2:52:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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How soon before they apply this same "logic" (for lack of a better word) to one's home?

That's the goal isn't it?

They want all guns...."locked up in your home" as a first step.

Then they will want them removed from your home and stored elsewhere locked up, where someone else has the only key and you cannot access your guns with out their permission.

12 posted on 11/28/2015 2:54:49 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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The console between my front seats has hidden under compartment. I want to be able to get to it fast as needed.

“i am looking for an inexpensive .380” Tht’s the only caliber I don’t own. If I were buying I would look at the Kel-Tec .380, a real value.


13 posted on 11/28/2015 2:55:00 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Bryanw92
Liberals already do. How many times have any of us been lectured to by some lib friend who gets on the subject of home defense and asks the stupid question, 'Is anything in your house really worth killing a human being for?'

Oh, how about your family, or even your own sorry ass. (not directed at the poster)

14 posted on 11/28/2015 2:55:26 PM PST by Ken H
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Ruger LCP in .380 or Beretta Tomcat in .32 if you want to spend a little more, great little gun for women unable to rack slides.


15 posted on 11/28/2015 2:57:16 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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I have seen an AWFUL lot of Perry Mason episodes where the murder weapon is a gun left in the glove compartment of a convertible. So maybe they have a point.

And the first TV show to incorporate a beard for the lead.

16 posted on 11/28/2015 3:00:49 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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>>Oh, how about your family, or even your own sorry ass. (not directed at the poster)

That’s when they get REALLY stupid. They say things like “You just don’t know what they want, so you should find out before you start blazing away.”

So I usually just have fun at that point and tell them, “If my cars are in the driveway, I assume they came to hurt me. So, the first warning they get is when the flashlight on the gun comes on. The second warning is about a second later when the first of three hollowpoints hits their body. If my cars aren’t in the driveway, then they find out too late just how bad they f’ed up.”

That usually shuts them up because they think they’ve just had a run-in with a psychopath and they don’t want to talk about it anymore.


17 posted on 11/28/2015 3:04:30 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m a life long gun nut, who believes gun control means controlling your own gun, all the time. Of course it’s the criminals’ fault for stealing. But theft happens. Prudence and self-interest say to protect your firearms from opportunistic thieves — at least you should make a serious effort.

In all instances cited, the government LEO’s lost guns entrusted to them by the taxpayers. I really don’t want to pay to arm criminals due to laziness.


18 posted on 11/28/2015 3:06:03 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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I think they have a point. If an ordinary citizen has a loaded handgun in car at all it’s a crime in CA. Even a loaded magazine locked in the trunk and the gun in the passenger section is considered a “loaded” weapon. You must keep the gun unloaded and locked in a container (the glove compartment doesn’t count). If you have a CCW permit you must keep it on your person, or again it’s a crime. Yet cops just go around leaving loaded guns visible and unlocked? Why should they not be held accountable?


19 posted on 11/28/2015 3:11:01 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Gun thefts from cars, handguns specifically, can be deterred by buying & using a lockable metal box that has a cable that is secured around the support at the bottom of your front seat.

Do a Google search for “Bulldog car safe with key lock” for an example. Other companies make similar items. I use one for that rare time I must enter a place where guns or CCW is forbidden.


20 posted on 11/28/2015 3:22:57 PM PST by RicocheT (Only a few prefer liberty--the majority seek nothing more than fair masters. Sallust, Histories)
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