Posted on 11/28/2015 8:27:12 AM PST by Kaslin
Nguyen is the case. Spelling may be off. There is a site where you can actually listen to the oral argument. It should be required listening for anyone who claims they know the law is settled or those that claim they know how Scotus would rule.
That is your opinion, not a fact. Obama is in the WH and holds a US passport. He has never been naturalized. Even if born in Kenya, his mother was a US citizen. And the state of Hawaii says he we was born there.
Ted Cruz was born in Canada and was a Canadian at birth. His mother was an American but his father was Cuban who became naturalized in 2005. The Cruz situation is not that much different than Obama.
Every president to date was either a citizen at the adoption of the Constitution in 1789 or born in the United States; of those in the latter group, every president except two (Chester A. Arthur and Barack Obama) had two U.S.-citizen parents. Both were controversial at the time. Cruz will invoke a similar controversy, which is why we need SCOTUS to adjudicate it now.
He should have known that the courts have never defined what constitutes a "natural born citizen" under the eligibility for President as specified in the Constution. It needs to be adjudicated.
My grandson was born in London to an American father and an English mother. Son went to US consulate that day to register his son’s birth as an American natural born citizen and a US citizen passport was issued to my grandson that day. His mother also registered his birth as a British citizen that day. When grandson comes to this country, he gets in the US citizen line for entry just like all other US citizens.
I remember when he questioned Cruz's citizenship and would bet if Cruz's numbers start reaching Trump's, Trump will bring up the citizenship again even though he knows Cruz is eligible - truth has a hard time being in Trump's mouth when he wants to try to cut someone down.
Yes his mother was a a natural born US Citizen. No one is denying that, but his father wasn’t.
It seems so clear to me. There are two types of citizens, natural born (born in the United States) and naturalized (those not born in the United States.) Ted Cruz is not natural born.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of
the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall
any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five
Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction
thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State
shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens
of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.
If that's true the 0bomb had to approve it so, in my opinion, it's as if he issued it.
Funny thing is that his number 1 fangirl Ann Coulter once said ‘birthers’ were nutjob conspiracy theorists but now she says Cruz is ineligible.
It's the R's turn.
Easy. One is a Democrat so must be defended by the media and everyone else, the other is a Republican who must be challenged by that same media and everyone else.
My husband was stationed 3 different times in Germany. The first time from December 1961 to September 1966. The second time from September 1968 to December 1970 and the third time from August 1977 to May 31, 1979, I became a naturalized US Citizen on June 12, 1977 in Junction City KS.
Most Democrats are a little crazy; Grayson is certifiable.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Ann Coulter used to make sense, but I think her effort to keep selling new books, has caused her to go nuts - say the wildest things she can think of to sell another book.
Yes, I had to register my son also after his birth at Landstuhl. He was issued a German birth certificate at birth.
True.
One thing that this Grayson creature does is to bring out a point that a lawsuit IS possible. This was a thing that was mentioned by none other than Darrel Issa when he tried to assist a bunch of Dems to pass a bill in 2004 allowing for foreign born, naturalized or adopted by US citizens from a foreign country, to be considered eligible to qualify as presidential candidates.
From a blog post I did:
“Lets not forget Issa. His is a softer, more reasoned approach. Pay close attention to the mention of such a statute being tried before the SCOTUS, if the Constitution is not AMENDED instead of this being passed as a law. Also note the mention of McCain - in 2004 - this again is a reveal of intent. pg. 13 & 14” The proposed bill was called, “Maximizing voter choice”. http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pur1.32754077957292;view=1up;seq=5
It is supposed that Issa joined with this effort in order to aid Schwarzenegger in a presidential run. All of this crap to scrap the natural-born requirement really began back with Rommneys father.
My son was born in 1963 in Germany in an American military hospital. When he was six weeks old we took him to the American Consulate in Munich, Germany to get him registered. He received an American birth certificate and also an American Passport. The same thing also was true for our daughter who was born in the same same hospital in 1970. We took her to the American Consulate in Munich to get her registered. She received her American birth certificate and her American Passport.
Sounds like cut and dried support for deportation of illegal immigrants.
So what? I wasn't a US Citizen either when my son was born in Germany in March of 1963 and my daughter in 1970. My husband registered them both with the American Consulate in Munich, Germany when they were 6 weeks old. Both were born in the same US Army hospital, which means they were born on US soil.
You don't really think they would have gotten American birth certificates and American Passports issued if they had not qualified? Get real and stop it with the birther nonesense.
...Get real and stop it with the birther nonesense...
This is not nonsense. Can’t you understand, there are TWO types of American citizens.
1. Natural born citizens. Born on American soil of two American parents.
2. Naturalized citizens. NATURALIZED CITIZEN. One who, being born an alien, has lawfully become a citizen of the United States Under the constitution and laws.
2. He has all the rights of a natural born citizen, except that of being eligible as president or vice-president of the United States. In foreign countries he has a right to be treated as such, and will be so considered even in the country of his birth, at least for most purposes. 1 Bos. & P. 430. See Citizen; Domicil; Inhabitant. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Naturalized+citizen
Now, naturalized citizen laws have been so bastardized, twisted and tweeked by various people and groups to make their group, their guy, their whatever, a natural born citizen but that does not make it so. This is what has brought us anchor babies and Obama.
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