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We were just following orders - the Joint Chiefs and the War with ISIS
US Defense Watch ^ | November 27, 2015 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 11/27/2015 6:42:43 PM PST by pboyington

Across the world, the War with ISIS is exploding; in Paris, Brussels, in the Middle East and at the US/Mexican border. ISIS continues to attack, attack, attack, following George Patton’s motto of “l’audace, l’audace, toujours l’audace (audacity, audacity, always audacity).

While the world seems to be continually shocked by one ISIS atrocity after another, in the White House, one thing is crystal clear, President Obama has chosen to fight rising seas and disappearing glaciers before taking the fight to the marauding maniacal murderers of ISIS.

While the President has been pelted for two weeks for having no strategy to fight ISIS, no one in the press has mentioned the architects of the war against ISIS, the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Oh, those guys…

Those guys…

Where have they been this whole time? The majority of the air campaign against ISIS was being conducted while former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Martin Dempsey was at the helm of the US Military Titanic. Dempsey certainly knew that flying 10 missions a day against ISIS, 75% of which were turned around, would have no effect on the caliphate.

A pack of Cub Scouts could figure that one out, no matter how many times Admiral Kirby was wheeled out with his organ grinder and carnival shell game. Where was the Chief of Staff of the US Air Force, General Mark Welsh this whole time? Certainly he knew that the air war against ISIS was no war at all.

Where were the Joint Chiefs when Obama pulled out of Iraq, opening up a Pandora’s Box into hell? Where were the Joint Chiefs when ISIS made strategic gain after strategic gain in Iraq and Syria and seized more cities and more land?

Where were the Joint Chiefs when doctored intelligence from CENTCOM was flowing into the White House faster than a Rocky Mountain river?

And, where are the Joint Chiefs now as the President willingly dodges any kind of strategy or war against the most evil threat to peace since the Nazis?

After hitting an iceberg and abandoning ship, Dempsey is currently floating down the Potomac in a raft, escaping the carnage and holding a Samsonite full of retirement benefits and the key to his new office at some Beltway defense contractor. Thank you for your service, general.

General Joe Dunford, Dempsey’s replacement and the last great hope for sanity and strategy to prevail is as quiet as a church mouse. Where has Dunford been the whole time the ISIS surge has been taking place?

The truth of the matter is neither Dunford nor Dempsey or any of the Joint Chiefs have the guts to speak up for themselves or for the nation they defend. The old Prussian Army motto, “befehl ist befehl,” “an order is an order” seems to be the Joint Chiefs’ rallying cry.

Of course the Nazis on trial for crimes against humanity at Nuremberg used the same excuse, “befehl ist befehl.” Have we stepped down to their level now? Is every foolish order from the commander-in-chief to be obeyed without question? Is every idiot policy to be carried out without question?

Apparently…

Has anyone heard or read of anyone from the Joint Chiefs speaking up about President Obama’s ISIS strategy?

The sad truth is that no one has the courage to call out Obama or the White House on their cowardly approach to fighting ISIS. The Joint Chiefs have seen what has happened to anyone in the military who voices opposition to either the current strategy to wage war or any of the Gloria Steinem social policies being shoved down the military’s throat.

Anyone speaking out against the Cultural Revolution engulfing the military is sent packing.

Take the case of Major-General Michael Keltz, a decorated aviator, who was canned for telling a junior officer at a hearing that he was “drunker than 10,000 Indians.” Keltz’s sole crime was making that comment. Do you think someone is actually going to argue with Obama about serious policy? They would be out of the military before they even walked out of the Oval.

Apparently, we have become some kind of corrupt banana republic where if anyone questions El Presidente or appears to have an ounce of warrior spirit, their career is taken out to a cobble-stoned courtyard, tied to a stake and shot.

The list of generals fired or forced to resign under President Obama is unprecedented in US history. The word is out on the street, play ball or say goodbye.

For God’s sake even the German generals argued with Hitler to the very last day in the bunker. Yet, no one has the intestinal fortitude to argue with Obama.

I can hear the arguments already coming my way. How do you know no one voices their opposition to Obama’s strategy? If they did they would be fired and Wolf Blitzer would have told you on CNN. Then, there’s the old lifer argument; what can they say? The military is subordinate to civilian authority. Just keep your head down and clock out.

Subordinate to civilian authority it certainly is, but that doesn’t excuse the highest ranking military personnel in the country to abandon their oaths for the fear of losing another promotion or a really cool parking space at the commissary for their wives.

No one says anything. The Joint Chiefs have become nothing more than dime store dummies in uniforms.

If one general speaks his mind, he’s nothing more than a target in the open. But, what if several of them called a press conference and said something? During the press conference they could say they disagree with the President’s policies and they could resign.

Instead they all wait until they’re officially out of the service. The next day they’re wearing a new PX bought suit and espousing their great military knowledge to the world on Fox or CNN. Suddenly, they’re all the biggest critics of everything the White House is doing or not doing.

Now that they can’t be useful, they’re all General Johnny on the Spot to solve the world’s problems.

In past history, the country has always had the luck of having men and women of extraordinary character rise from the shadows and take the helm during times of trouble.

We need generals who won’t sacrifice the truth for their retirement benefits.

What we need now are moral heroes, not moral cowards.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dempsey; dunford; isis; obama; pentagon4alqaeda; pentagon4hasan; pentagonvsamerica; pentagonvsamericans
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1 posted on 11/27/2015 6:42:43 PM PST by pboyington
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To: pboyington

Deaths from CO2 - 0

Deaths from Islam - 300 million in almost 1400 years of war with everyone else

Which seems like the bigger threat?


2 posted on 11/27/2015 6:49:08 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: pboyington

Jousting windmills


3 posted on 11/27/2015 6:49:15 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: pboyington

He’s focusing on what will line his own pockets first. He doesn’t want to spend a second fighting his own Frankenstein creation. They are doing exactly what he created them to do.


4 posted on 11/27/2015 6:49:20 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: pboyington

Or you could just let the Russians do it. It’s cheaper that way.


5 posted on 11/27/2015 6:49:46 PM PST by Bogie
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To: pboyington

Hopefully, President Trump and VP Cruz will bring the Joint Chiefs up on charges. They all need to be in jail (at the minimum). Dempsey is a reprehensible little prick, and a traitor to his country.


6 posted on 11/27/2015 6:50:13 PM PST by vette6387
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To: pboyington
At the top levels, the big military people aren't primarily thinking about the military. Military success mostly isn't what got them to the top. It's politics. They are really, really good butt kissers. The military people who think it's maybe about more than butt kissing get purged before they can make a difference.

Joint Chiefs of Staff might as well be senators. They're back-slapping members of the Boys Club.

7 posted on 11/27/2015 6:50:56 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I support anything which diminishes the Muslim population.)
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To: vette6387

I see you suffer from dyslexia (sorry) ... that should read President Cruz and VP Trump, there fixed it for you. No thank necessary. ;-)


8 posted on 11/27/2015 6:56:55 PM PST by doc1019 (Out of my mind ... back in 5)
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To: pboyington

>We need generals who won’t sacrifice the truth for their retirement benefits. <

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What America lacks is a US version of general Pinochet.


9 posted on 11/27/2015 6:57:44 PM PST by 353FMG
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10 posted on 11/27/2015 6:58:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: pboyington

>We need generals who won’t sacrifice the truth for their retirement benefits. <

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What America lacks is a US version of general Pinochet.


11 posted on 11/27/2015 6:58:17 PM PST by 353FMG
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Why does no one stand up to any dictator? And Obama is a dictator. They’re all afraid of those standing next to them. A general isn’t sure who he can trust. Why? Because he knows the guy standing next to him probably got to the top the same way he did.

And the congress doesn’t do anything because 90%, if not more, are looking for their retirement just like the military. How are they kept in line? Every now and then one of them goes to prison.


12 posted on 11/27/2015 7:07:11 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: pboyington
Just following orders was tried at Nuremberg and it didn't work.

Tell us a different story.

13 posted on 11/27/2015 7:10:15 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

A coward’s tale! Die a thousand deaths.


14 posted on 11/27/2015 7:14:12 PM PST by pke
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15 posted on 11/27/2015 7:14:36 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: Bogie
It’s cheaper that way.

With the way we are fighting we are spending about 5 million per casualty.

16 posted on 11/27/2015 7:25:27 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: pboyington

The Joint Chiefs are political appointee geldings. They (unfortunately) are more interested in their positions/power than they care about Free America.


17 posted on 11/27/2015 7:43:39 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: pboyington

“We need generals who won’t sacrifice the truth for their retirement benefits.

What we need now are moral heroes, not moral cowards.”

The receipt of government checks and benefits corrupts without regard to class, creed, social station.

The joint chiefs are corrupted as much as anyone down at the projects. Folks who think they are stalwart conservatives are corrupted. Many here are good examples.

It’s exactly why our founding fathers expertly didn’t want us to become what we clearly have become.

The folks paying for it all can’t afford it.

The JCS are no better than a Crack shore with an ebt card.


18 posted on 11/27/2015 7:44:06 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: jsanders2001

Strong words condemning the generals. True words though.


19 posted on 11/27/2015 7:51:53 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Actually, it can be extremely deadly:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos
1700 people were killed


20 posted on 11/27/2015 9:19:46 PM PST by DrGunsforHands
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