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Turkey Risks Wider War and Undercuts Fight Against ISIS
Frontpagemagazine ^ | November 27, 2015 | Joseph Klein

Posted on 11/27/2015 6:53:11 AM PST by SJackson

While admitting that he was not in possession of all of the facts regarding Turkey's downing of a Russian warplane on November 24th, President Obama was quick to blame only Russia. He said at a joint news conference with French President Francois Hollande that Turkey had "a right to defend its territory and its airspace." Obama also criticized Russia for propping up Syrian President Assad by going after the so-called "moderate" rebels rather than concentrating on ISIS. From the information that has come out so far, however, Turkey appears to have acted precipitously, without sufficient justification or forethought about the potential consequences. Russia does bear some responsibility for what happened, but Turkey overreacted to a minor alleged violation of its airspace. In doing so, Turkey risked a major escalation of hostilities with Russia that could draw in NATO. Turkey's action also undermined efforts to forge a coordinated strategy with Russia to combat the common enemy, ISIS.

The Russian Su-24 aircraft was hit by an air-to-air missile while apparently flying in what Turkey claims to be its airspace very close to the Syrian-Turkish border. The alleged incursion lasted around 17 seconds before the plane was hit and then crashed inside Syria. The pilots were reportedly shot at by Turkmen tribal rebels on the Syrian side of the border as they were parachuting down from the stricken aircraft. One of the pilots was killed. The other managed to hide and was eventually rescued by a team composed of Russian and Syrian Special Forces. Armed Syria-Turkmen rebel soldiers were filmed cheering and shouting "Allahu Akbar," the jihadist rallying cry shared by ISIS fighters, over the bloodied corpse of one of the pilots.

The Obama administration has been supporting the so-called "moderate" Turkmen rebels and does not appear to be particularly disturbed by the Turkmens' evident violation of the Geneva Conventions (Protocol 1, Article 42): "No person parachuting from an aircraft in distress shall be made the object of attack during his descent."

As for Turkey, it fully backs the Turkmen rebels operating in Syria in opposition to the Assad regime and regards them as under its protection. Turkey's real motive in shooting down the Russian aircraft may well have been to send a clear message to Russia to stop bombing the Turkmen tribesmen, whom Turkey is protecting in northern Syria. This interpretation of Turkey's real motive is evidenced by the fact that, days earlier, Turkey had summoned Russia's ambassador to Turkey to deliver a demand that Russia cease such bombing. The Turkish Foreign Ministry had warned of "serious consequences" if Russia persisted. Evidently, Turkey decided to follow through on its unheeded demand.

The encroachment into what Turkey alleges to be its airspace took place over territory, the Hatay region, which is still disputed between Turkey and Syria. Turkey had unilaterally taken the Hatay territory from Syria and annexed it in 1939, an action which Syria still rejects as unlawful. Thus, Turkey's claim that it was simply acting in self-defense in order to protect its territorial integrity is of questionable validity. Syria, which Russia is militarily supporting at the request of the Syrian government, disputes Turkey's assertion of sovereignty over the Hatay territory to this day.

Moreover, even assuming Turkey had an unassailable claim that its airspace was being encroached upon by a Russian warplane despite repeated warnings to back off, Turkey responded in a grossly disproportionate fashion. Turkey has cited no evidence that Russia intended any aggressive action targeting individuals or facilities within Turkey itself. Instead of shooting down the plane, Turkey could have launched a formal complaint to the United Nations Security Council, or to another international body where Russia does not have a veto such as the International Court of Justice, in order to seek recourse. Turkey decided to shoot first and then send a meaningless letter to the Security Council.

. True, Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has rhetorically distanced himself from some of ISIS's brutal tactics and its pretentions to caliphate rule. And Turkey, a member of NATO, finally did come around to allowing the U.S. to launch sorties against ISIS from a base in Turkey. However, Erdogan is at heart a jihadist who shares more in common with ISIS's Islamic supremacist ideology than he does with Western secular values.

Erdogan even offered a justification for ISIS's planting of an explosive that took down a Russian jet in Egypt, killing 224 people. Dubai TV quoted Erdogan as saying: "How can I condemn the Islamic State for shooting down a Russian plane as its passengers were returning from a happy vacation in a time when our co-religionists in Syria are bombed by Putin's fighter jets?...it is the natural outcome of Moscow's actions in Syria and the support for Assad."

Obama contends that Russia is at fault for not doing more to go after ISIS rather than bombing rebels "supported by not only Turkey but a wide range of countries." However, he has given Turkey a free pass for pursuing its own agenda, even if aiding ISIS in the process. In fact, Turkey's number one target of its own bombing campaign within Syria (violating Syrian airspace) has been Syrian Kurds. Turkey is determined to do everything it can to prevent Syrian Kurds from building the foundation for their own independent state that Kurds living in Turkey would want to join. The Kurdish militias in Syria, as described by the New York Times, "have become the most important allies within Syria of the American-led coalition fighting the Islamic State." Russia, by the way, supports the Syrian Kurds. Thus, in order to block the Kurds' aspirations for self-determination, Turkey has been violating Syrian airspace to attack an effective militia force in Syria that the United States and Russia both support in the common fight against ISIS.

Turkey is not only trying to kill members of the most effective local forces fighting against ISIS in Syria. It is Turkey, not Russia, which has actually been helping ISIS. For example, Turkey has facilitated the black market sale of oil from ISIS-controlled territories, which helps finance ISIS's expanding terrorist campaign. As reported by Al-Monitor, quoting a lawmaker from the main opposition party in Turkey, "$800 million worth of oil that ISIS obtained from regions it occupied this year [the Rumeilan oil fields in northern Syria -- and most recently Mosul] is being sold in Turkey."

Turkey has also served as a convenient transit point through which foreign ISIS recruits pass on their way to Syria. The same Turkish opposition lawmaker stated: "Fighters from Europe, Russia, Asian countries and Chechnya are going in large numbers both to Syria and Iraq, crossing from Turkish territory. There is information that at least 1,000 Turkish nationals are helping those foreign fighters sneak into Syria and Iraq to join ISIS. The National Intelligence Organization (MIT) is allegedly involved."

Erdogan's major difference with ISIS is where the Islamic caliphate ultimately should be based. He believes in the restoral of a caliphate under Ottoman rule. He was willing to risk a wider war in the region to protect his "co-religionists in Syria" and thereby strengthen his own claim to leadership of at least the Sunni Muslims. This is the man whom Obama has named as one of his top five friends among world leaders. It is long past time for Obama to unfriend this authoritarian jihadist.


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1 posted on 11/27/2015 6:53:11 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
"Wider war" is baked in the cake.

There will be a Muslim "Tet Offensive" across Europe in 2016, with tens of thousands of "refujihadis" as the fighters.


2 posted on 11/27/2015 6:55:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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3 posted on 11/27/2015 6:58:22 AM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: SJackson

Turkey is ISIS.


4 posted on 11/27/2015 6:59:58 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01
Yeah zero and his ally Erdogan doing all they can do to protect ISIS and Al qaeda. When did we switch sides in the War on Terror? I hate that name.

Zero better be very careful here, besides the risk of a real shooting war with Russia, he risks exposing himself as a stealth Jihadist. Either event might just be enough to force a spineless Congress into action, maybe.

5 posted on 11/27/2015 7:07:13 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: SJackson

He believes in the restoral of a caliphate under Ottoman rule
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That’s the bottom line.
Erdogan wants to be the Caliph.

Obama and McCain and Graham and Rubio are idiots for thinking there are “moderate” jihadis in Syria.

This is a holy war. Our enemy has declared it. We can ignore that Islam is at war with the rest of the world, like it has been since 622 A.D., but that will not make it go away.


6 posted on 11/27/2015 7:07:31 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: jpsb

When did we switch sides in the War on Terror?
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When we swore in an ineligible Marxlim as President.


7 posted on 11/27/2015 7:08:58 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SJackson

Turkey will soon rue the day they poked the Russian Bear.


8 posted on 11/27/2015 7:10:27 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: jpsb

After Obama’s term he’ll need to seek refuge similar to Osama or Sadam. The truth of his treason is well known to all with courageous eyes.


9 posted on 11/27/2015 7:13:24 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: SJackson

“”Turkey risked a major escalation of hostilities with Russia””

Not to mention a lecture from to Putin from obozo, the military expert!


10 posted on 11/27/2015 7:18:50 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: SJackson
However, Erdogan [ and Obama are] at heart a jihadist who shares more in common with ISIS's Islamic supremacist ideology than he does with Western secular values.

it's becoming so clear where our president stands that even another layer of the brain-dead are seeing it

11 posted on 11/27/2015 7:21:30 AM PST by maine-iac7
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To: Travis McGee

(guns from Turkey to Germany - ) - for later


12 posted on 11/27/2015 7:24:07 AM PST by maine-iac7
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To: SJackson

All said is done, I believe Turkey is mostly ISIS.


13 posted on 11/27/2015 8:07:37 AM PST by Logical me
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To: SJackson

Almost 1000 years after Charles Martel, Prince Eugene defeated the Ottoman Turks at The Battle of Zenta, Yugoslavia on Sep. 11 1697. The last high water mark of the Muslims in Europe, now look where they are!


14 posted on 11/27/2015 9:04:13 AM PST by jacob allen
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To: SJackson

Obama wants to dray NATO into the war so he will have an excuse to support ISIS.


15 posted on 11/27/2015 10:25:01 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: SJackson

No doubt in my mind that Turkey and Obama are supporting ISIS.


16 posted on 11/27/2015 10:37:49 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: SJackson

bkmk


17 posted on 11/27/2015 7:03:31 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Travis McGee
I know what to do with those 781 Winchester Defenders: Ship them back to the State and sell them here, proceeds to go to victims of Moo violence.

Better still, sell them in "Old American" suburbs on the south side of Chicago, just to frost Barky.

18 posted on 11/28/2015 4:41:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: Iron Munro
Turkey will soon rue the day they poked the Russian Bear.

I don't know about that. They've posted a pretty middling record against the Russians.

During the time of Catherine and Peter the Great, the Russians were usually victorious; but in 1870 the Turks beat the Russian army like a tin drum. The reason was, the Russians were carrying older-model rifles comparable to the 1848 Springfield rifle, but the Turks had upgraded to Western lever-action rifles (Winchester 1866 "Yellowboys" iirc). The result was very one-sided.

In World War I, the Turks held their own against all the Western Allies in the Dardanelles region, but lost everything in the Fertile Crescent.

19 posted on 11/28/2015 5:16:48 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: SJackson

Inter armes leges silent


20 posted on 11/28/2015 5:18:26 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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