Posted on 11/25/2015 6:19:56 PM PST by rickmichaels
The country's military said it was following the same protocol it would have for any aircraft as officials insisted they did not know the nationality of the bomber jet.
The Turkish military said in a statement: "The nationality of the plane was not known... and the rules of engagement were automatically used."
It also said it tried to rescue the plane's pilots and invited Russian defence and military officials to its Ankara headquarters to explain the incident.
The Turkish army released a series of audio recordings of officials reportedly warning plane before it was shot down.
A voice in one of the recordings can be heard repeating: "This is Turkish Air Force speaking on guard. You are approaching Turkish airspace. Change your heading south immediately."
A Turkish official previously claimed the doomed jet ignored 10 warnings in five minutes to leave Turkish airspace.
It was shot down by F16 Fighting Falcon jets belonging to Turkey.
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Yep.
Yea, the RT (Russia Today) isn’t biased are they? There’s probably some truth to both sides of the reason. Irregardless, there have been numerous intrusions by the Russians, so there is that. How many times do jets get warned there before something gets done? Most countries (unlike our current leadership) regard their national borders as critical to their sovereignty.
Russian arms to Kurds real soon.
Not sure it would go this way, but in theory, you are correct about what Moscow could do to Turkey energy wise, if Moscow was motivated enough.
#1. >> Moscow could easily stop the high volume flow of energy from the east into Turkey.
#2. >> Moscow could significantly influence the trade and energy routes in the waters around Turkey.
The dependent European markets know this, and will act in their own immediate perceived best interest.
As such, things will need to deteriorate significantly further for anyone to defend Turkey.
And Moscow Knows This.
Additionally, keep in mind Moscow also knows no one has or will stop them from their objectives in Ukraine, or their energy and military expansion in the Arctic.
>> For that matter, Moscow and China have long witnessed how no nation in the western world is willing to interrupt trade while they both strategically expand territory and work to reestablish geopolitical dominance.
They are also both more than aware of the “internal pulse” of western media, governments, and the various historically dumb electorates.
Russia and China will have to amp it up a bit further to really re-educate the west.
Now that's a constructive suggestion. That's exactly what should happen.
Ruh roh...
Arm the Kurds. It will happen. Case problems in Cyprus.
Turkey is very vulnerable to destabilization.
B.S. Turkey has infringed on Greek and Armenian airspace hundreds of times over the last few years. Complaints were filed and that is it.
Erdogan is a bit of madman.
Ambassador John R. Bass, U.S. Ambassador to Turkey
Ambassador Bass, got Kerry’s phone number?
That being said, i read to day that Turkey routinely violates Syrian, Iraqi an Greek airspace multiple times a day.
Egad! Someone who knows what they are talking about!
:-)
That pretty much disqualifies you from having an intelligent discussion with anyone but a FRussian.
Why would you jump into a thread just to insult a fellow Freeper that you've never spoken to before?
If you have evidence refuting what I said let's hear it, I have no problem admitting that I'm mistaken if that's the case.
Using American weapons
And so has Greece...ha. I agree about the wanna-be Sultan.
In the past, it would have happened. But, Erdogan has thrown so many of the officer corps in prison, or they’re sitting home waiting to see if they go to trial, that he’s effectively neutered them with his own replacements.
Classic. If one questions RT, one supports the American MSM. Straight from the playbook.
Putin was bitch slapped by Turkey and he will do nothing militarily to Turkey.
Like a common schoolyard bully, the international bully only pushed against those who won’t push back.
With a 4 sided CF of a war going on just south of you you don’t really need to know who the plane belongs to, you just need to know who it DOESN’T belong to. it wasn’t Turkish, that’ll do.
“Arm the Kurds. It will happen. Case problems in Cyprus.”
Russia can only do this. But they have no direct military options against Turkey after getting bitch slapped.
Putin can risk any conflict that would expose his weapons as inferior against 2nd tier West weapons. They depend on selling their junk to those who oppose the West all over the world.
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