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Dumb Responses to the Paris Attacks
Townhall.com ^ | November 25, 2015 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 11/25/2015 2:22:35 PM PST by Kaslin

The recent attacks in Paris have inspired various half-baked proposals to prevent terrorism in the United States. Here are four of the dumbest.

Collect everyone's phone records. Three days after ISIS gunmen and suicide bombers killed 130 people in Paris, CIA Director John Brennan blamed surveillance restrictions that were imposed in response to information leaked by former National Security Agency contractor, Edward Snowden. "In the past several years," he said, "because of a number of unauthorized disclosures and a lot of hand wringing over the government's role in the effort to try to uncover these terrorists, there have been some policy and legal and other actions ... that make our ability collectively, internationally, to find these terrorists much more challenging."

The main legal change to which Brennan alluded is the USA Freedom Act's requirement that the NSA stop indiscriminately collecting Americans' phone records, and instead obtain court orders seeking information about specific suspects. But that change has not taken effect yet and does not apply to people in other countries. Furthermore, there is no evidence that the NSA program ever thwarted a terrorist attack.

Stop accepting refugees from Syria. Although governors do not have the legal authority to prevent legally admitted aliens from entering their states, more than 30 have said they would if they could because they worry that some refugees may be terrorists in disguise. Several presidential candidates, including Ted Cruz, Chris Christie, and Rand Paul, have said that danger justifies closing our doors to Syrians fleeing the chaos of their country's civil war.

As the Cato Institute's Alex Nowrasteh points out, the screening of refugees is rigorous and time-consuming, taking as long as two or three years. Since 2001, he says, the U.S. has admitted about 860,000 refugees, and "only three have been convicted of planning terrorist attacks" -- all of them in other countries. Nowrasteh concludes that "terrorists who are intent on attacking U.S. soil have myriad other options for doing so that are all cheaper, easier, and more likely to succeed than sneaking in through the heavily guarded refugee gate."

Prevent "suspected terrorists" from buying guns. Since the Paris attacks, the New York Daily News has been pillorying the National Rifle Association for opposing a bill that would prohibit gun sales to people on the FBI's so-called Terrorist watch list. Under the headline "NRA's Sick Jihad," the paper last week complained "over 2,000 suspects on terror watch list have legally bought firearms in the U.S. because gun nuts are blocking law that would end the madness."

The American Civil Liberties Union, which estimates that the watch list includes more than 1 million names, calls it a "virtually standardless" dragnet that "ensnares innocent people and encourages racial and religious profiling." Although the list is supposedly limited to people "reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activity," something like two-fifths have "no recognized terrorist group affiliation."

Since innocent people who end up on the list have little recourse, it is neither fair nor reasonable to strip them of their constitutional rights. While people convicted of felonies or facing felony indictments are barred from buying guns under current law, not even an arrest is necessary to put someone on the watch list.

Close the mosques. Last week GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump said he would "strongly consider" forcibly closing American mosques in response to the Paris attacks because "some of the absolute hatred is coming from these areas." Even if Trump, who is currently the Republican frontrunner, won the nomination and the presidency, the First Amendment would prevent him from delivering on that threat.

Trump, who also thinks you should lose your Second Amendment rights if you are merely suspected of being "an enemy of state," is pretty consistently authoritarian, which helps explain his appeal among Republican voters yearning for a strong hand to protect them from a scary world. Fear is his friend, and in that respect, ISIS is his ally.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: paris; parisattacks; terrorism

1 posted on 11/25/2015 2:22:35 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I wonder if posting on FR is enough to get you on a watch list?


2 posted on 11/25/2015 2:25:42 PM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Kaslin

just because two good ideas are thrown in with two bad doesn’t make the good ones look bad


3 posted on 11/25/2015 2:28:56 PM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: Kaslin

“over 2,000 suspects on terror watch list have legally bought firearms in the U.S. because gun nuts are blocking law that would end the madness.”

No bias there, huh? Lefty ghouls always raise their false flag as soon as the dust settles from some tragedy to try and infringe the 2nd. amend.


4 posted on 11/25/2015 2:29:55 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: MeganC

5 posted on 11/25/2015 2:31:07 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: MeganC

We probably have been for at least 15 years!...............


6 posted on 11/25/2015 2:31:23 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: MeganC

Every FReeper is on The List.

Brennan is a mooslimb convert. Seriously.


7 posted on 11/25/2015 2:35:54 PM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: Kaslin
Stop accepting refugees from Syria. Although governors do not have the legal authority to prevent legally admitted aliens from entering their states,

This might or might not be true. I don't think any of it prohibits the governors from quarantining the terrorists ins some out of the way place in their state, until they can be checked out for diseases etc...
8 posted on 11/25/2015 2:41:26 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: MeganC

Work of repression and espionage was carried out by the Ministry of Love. It was the really frightening one. There were no windows in it at all. Winston had never been inside the Ministry of Love, nor within half a kilometre of it. It was a place impossible to enter except on official business, and then only be penetrating through a maze of barbed-wire entanglements, steel doors, and hidden machine-gun nests. Even the streets leading up to its outer barriers were roamed by gorilla-faced guards in black uniform armed with jointed truncheons.

One did not know what happened inside the Ministry of Love, but it was possible to guess: tortures, drugs, delicate instruments that registered your nervous reactions, gradual wearing-down by sleeplessness and solitude and persistent questioning. Facts, at any rate, could not be kept hidden. They could be tracked down by enquiry, they could be squeezed out of you by torture. But if the object was not to stay alive but to stay human, what difference did it ultimately make? They could not alter your feelings: for that matter you could not alter them yourself, even if you wanted to. They could lay bare in the utmost detail everything that you had done or said or thought; but the inner heart, whose workings were mysterious even to yourself, remained impregnable.

He began thinking of the things that would happen to him after the Thought Police took him away. It would not matter if they killed you at once. To be killed was what you expected. But before death (nobody spoke of such things, yet everybody knew of them) there was the routine of confession that had to be gone through: the groveling on the floor and screaming for mercy, the crack of broken bones, the smashed teeth, and bloody clots of hair. Why did you have to endure it, since the end was always the same. Why was it not possible to cut a few days or weeks out of your life: Nobody ever escaped detection, and nobody ever failed to confess. When once you succumbed to thoughtcrime it was certain that by a given day you would be dead.

And there’s no chocolate.


9 posted on 11/25/2015 2:41:29 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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“Since 2001, he says, the U.S. has admitted about 860,000 refugees, and “only three have been convicted of planning terrorist attacks” — all of them in other countries.”

So the Tsarnaev brothers don’t count? Hasan doesn’t count?


10 posted on 11/25/2015 2:45:00 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kaslin


11 posted on 11/25/2015 2:47:49 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: Kaslin

Nonsense, all of it.


12 posted on 11/25/2015 3:24:44 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: MeganC

Three to Five lists at least.
If you are a white, gun owning, Christian, who is ready to speak your mind about the OBASTARD Administration, you are going to wind up on hundreds of their lists.


13 posted on 11/25/2015 3:37:54 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: MeganC

It will be if liberals have their way and FR will be banned for being a terrorist site.


14 posted on 11/25/2015 5:21:30 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: Kaslin

If the screening process is so “rigorous and time-consuming” why don’t they make the process public? Could it be that we are querying an incomplete database or taking the word of a regime we are trying to depose?


15 posted on 11/25/2015 6:23:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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