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Self-Defenseless
Townhall.com ^ | November 25, 2015 | John Stossel

Posted on 11/25/2015 5:12:20 AM PST by Kaslin

What might have happened if a few of the 1,500 concert attendees in Paris' Bataclan theater had guns? The terrorists had time to kill, reload and kill again. The police unit didn't come for more than a half hour. If a few people in the theater were armed, might they have killed the killers?

We'll never know.

France's guns laws say you may not carry a gun unless police certify that you are "exposed to exceptional risks of harm" to your life. Few people even bother to apply.

Fortunately, in America, laws in every state now allow adults to carry guns. Some predicted this would lead to more crime, but the opposite happened. Crime is down.

Yet some towns, such as Chicago, Washington, D.C., and New York City, where I live, still make it nearly impossible for people to legally carry a gun.

I know because I tried to get a license.

People sometimes threaten me. One made a "Kill John Stossel" website. So I'd like the option of carrying a gun to protect myself.

First, I had to read and say I understood 50 pages of New York weapons laws and fill out a 17-page form. We had to call the police department six times just to clarify what questions meant.

Then I had to go to police headquarters in person. They fingerprinted me and told me to list reasons why I should be allowed to have a gun.

Gun instructor Glenn Herman says the bureaucracy is intentional. New York politicians want "to deter people from following through the process, which can take a year."

It took me eight and a half months. That included returning for another in-person interview.

This time, they told me that they'd discovered an old lawsuit against me and said I couldn't get a permit unless it had been "resolved." I explained that it had been dropped. They wanted "proof." I showed them a New York Times story that reported that the case was dropped. They told me that wasn't sufficient; I had to produce original court documents.

They also told me I had to "document" threats against me. The "Kill John Stossel" website and other Internet threats weren't sufficient, they said, because I hadn't reported them to the police at the time.

Fifty-two days later, they sent me a letter -- rejecting my application. They said I "failed to demonstrate a special need."

But why must I show a "special need"? The Supreme Court says that the Second Amendment gives individuals the right to keep and bear arms.

The court allowed cities to impose reasonable regulation. But New York's leftist politicians have strange ideas about what's reasonable.

Gun instructor Herman told me that I applied "the wrong way." Permits routinely go to "friends of the ruling class," he says. "Everyone else is out of luck." Sure enough, I notice that Donald Trump, Howard Stern and Robert De Niro got permits.

I wish bureaucrats worried more about what can happen when people don't have guns.

Mass killers often deliberately target gun-free zones. Criminals don't care about breaking rules -- but they know their potential victims will probably follow the rules and be unarmed. According to the U.N., the nation of Mali, where terrorists killed 20 people in a hotel, has one of the lowest rates of gun ownership in the world.

Back in the U.S., people with guns often do stop violent criminals.

When Andrew Wurst killed a teacher at a middle school dance and shot at other people for 20 minutes, it wasn't cops who got him to stop. It was the owner of the banquet hall pulling out his shotgun. People use guns to ward off criminals all the time. Often just showing the gun is enough to stop the crime.

Criminals themselves seem to understand this better than anti-gun activists do. A survey of convicted felons found that half said they fear armed private citizens more than they fear cops.

Guns make some people uncomfortable, but so what? As gun ownership skyrockets, America's crime rate continues to fall.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: parisattack; secondamendment

1 posted on 11/25/2015 5:12:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

One of the 1st things that came to mind when I read this story was I noticed no reports of returned fire ‘till the police arrived and how many lives may have been save if one or a few civilians WERE able to return fire.


2 posted on 11/25/2015 5:18:39 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Kaslin

John Stossel needs to update his article, because Chicago is no longer in the same league as NY and DC. CCW is now legal in Illinois, and the state law is a “Shall issue” law, meaning that if the applicant has a FOID card, passes the background check, completes the 16 hours of training (8 hours if one is a military veteran), and pays the $150 fee the CCW permit must be issued, unless the county sheriff has a reason to reject it, in which case the rejection is referred to an independent panel for review.

So, a law-abiding resident of Chicago may indeed legally carry, and other citizens of Illinois can legally carry in Chicago, except for some very specific places.

Illinois was the last state to allow CCW, but its law is actually more favorable to gun owners than some other states.


3 posted on 11/25/2015 5:25:03 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Kaslin
Mass killers often almost always deliberately target gun-free zones.

There. Fixed it.

4 posted on 11/25/2015 5:30:42 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: ought-six
CCW is now legal in Illinois, and the state law is a Shall Issue law, meaning that if the applicant has a FOID card, passes the background check, completes the 16 hours of training (8 hours if one is a military veteran), and pays the $150 fee the CCW permit must be issued, unless the county sheriff has a reason to reject it, in which case the rejection is referred to an independent panel for review.

Those requirements infringe the RKBA. Vermont doesn't even require a permit for open or concealed carry.

5 posted on 11/25/2015 5:32:51 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Kaslin

Do we really want concerts and clubs filled with armed, drunk guests??

Instead, for groups gathered in theaters and such, we (the western world) need to have trained armed guards at these events, stationed both with and without uniforms and visible guns.

I’m all for citizens open carry and concealed carry, but concerned about inside shows and concerts.


6 posted on 11/25/2015 5:36:27 AM PST by Yaelle (Trump Cruz 2016)
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To: Yaelle

Coupla errors, here.

Cops waited about TWO HOURS or more to show up with their “guns”. Nowhere as quick as reported.

ISLAM bided it time slicing and disembowelling living victims whilst waiting for the po-lice to show.

THEN they could blow theyselves up!

Fun, fun, fun!!! ISLAMIC FUN!!


7 posted on 11/25/2015 5:44:17 AM PST by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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