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To: stanne

I am pretty familiar with end times prophesy, especially the more plausible ones concerning prophesies based upon Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation.

The current worldwide geo-political situation and especially the current situation in the Middle East is really throwing end time prophesy proponents a curve. A good percentage of the “players” named in prophesy are there but the alliances are not right. Additionally they are not there now to go to war with Israel.

Here is a curve for the end-timers that see the anti-Christ being the head of the revived roman empire(excuse the length)....

1.reading Daniel 8:1 - 8:9 is about Alexander the Great, he is the goat in the passages. He conquers every empire from Greece, eastward, stopping at India and coming back to Egypt(read about his empire on google)

2.when he dies his kingdom is divided up amongst his 4 generals. Daniel 8:9 shows that the anti-Christ comes out of somewhere around eastern Irag. Meaning the anti-Christ is probably a Muslim.

3.Say the anti-Christ ruling Europe is correct and anti-Christ is muslim is correct. given the current mass migration of muslims into Europe, it is not unthinkable the anti-Christ is a muslim who rules over Europe. How long would it take for this situation to come about. Quite some time.

Also:
In Matthew 24:3 - 24:25, Jesus disciples ask him what the signs of his coming will be, read Jesus reply, it is basically a non-answer. All of the things he describes has happenened throughout history, with the exception of the abomination of desolation spoken of in Matt 24:15.

Bottom line...Bible prophesy’s what will happen in the “very” end times, but not when. It could be some time before the “very” end of times.


16 posted on 11/25/2015 7:12:00 AM PST by fingers_crossed
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To: fingers_crossed

According to Catholic teaching that I’ve been close to for fifty or so years, we are to be aware that no one knows the place or time

No one that likes to tell us, my kids included, that they can read the signs in the old and new testaments has ever been able to tell us either why we are supposed to know this, why we’re supposed to believe them over the Catholic Church teaching or Jesus Himself that not even the Angels know, but they themselves find it so important that the antichrist is coming out of some stupid country very soon and has a red scar on his right butt cheek and his initials are IKE, for ‘I know everything’

End times prophesies are something I never heard from the Dominican nuns who for no known reason are so marginalized but who knew the bible and did their collective job, which was to teach us upper middle class New York brats how to read, write, and do math and how to behave virtuously, ditto the old Irish aunts, ditto the Italian neighbors, friends’ parents, local shopkeepers and deli owners whose establishments we regularly raided and who kept us in line, verbally when necessary

And I never heard a hint of any ‘the end times are near’ from any credible authority. Not until I got to the south where I encountered this

I asked clergy who have explained how the anti Christ is many things. It’s political correctness. It’s media takeover of our lives, for instance

I’ve been told we’ve been in the end times since John the Baptist announced Jesus’ impending arrival

I’ve been told, while terrifyingly awaiting the second blue moon of the year ending in a four or a six or something from a man that a group of people calling themselves ‘Catholics’ who said he was regularly hearing the Blessed Mother herself, this was “it”, that such a fright is sure good for your devotion - which it wa. But only once.

Don’t need to live in constant fear. It’s what I told my sister recently when she called to ask about the second blood moon coming up was it the end as they were saying? I said

I told her I have been told by many people through the years of living outside of that community that people claim to know who have no reason to claim to know. The point to signs. There’s as much warning in the bible against believing false prophets as there are predictions about when the end can be predicted.

As Rose Camerrari said, ‘Cosmo, we’re all gonna die.’ Seems as good as any prediction. And it’s in keeping with my faith, from an observation from the writer, Shanley, an Irish (American) observed his Italian (American) neighbors it’s a catholic view of life. I don’t go around telling people they have to think or believe this way. I

I just tell people who try to tell me to believe a different way when they try to frighten me and my kids and sisters while trying to claim prophet status that we’re just fine with our beliefs, and they’ve addressed end times prophesies quite thoroughly, thanks, get behind.

We’re all gonna die,

We Catholics know that. The good Cardinal W knew that He went to confession every day. That’s true.


20 posted on 11/25/2015 8:33:27 AM PST by stanne
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