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To: Excellence; Dawgreg; Up Yours Marxists; SunkenCiv; All

It is pretty easy to get triggered into stupidity when you are living in climate above 100 f, with very little water. Typical summer temperatures in Baghdad are 114 f. Most Islamic terrorists come from lands that are very hot, very dry, and often very crowded. Syria had had a number of years of severe drought, many rural people had moved to the city, and Assad did nothing to aid his people or seek international help. The CIA did an extensive report on the dangers of climate change to the human future—wars, mass migrations, etc.


39 posted on 11/25/2015 11:15:59 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin; Dawgreg; Up Yours Marxists; SunkenCiv; All

gleeaikin,

Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

Europe is being invaded by bloodthirsty savages, and 0bama is doing his best to bring them here. Would you suggest importing malaria infected mosquitoes into Florida because they lost their habitat in Iraq?


40 posted on 11/26/2015 4:30:16 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: gleeaikin

Climate change is 100% natural 100% of the time. There’s been no massive increase in average temperatures in the Middle East/World apart from the natural cycle that lifted our ancestors out of the Little Ice Age, and prior to that time, the medieval warming was warmer than it is now, with an human population a fraction of what it is now, and centuries before the industrial revolution. So no. Stupidity in the muzzie world in particular (not just there, just uniquely concentrated) is consanguinous marriage.


41 posted on 11/26/2015 7:58:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: gleeaikin
The CIA did an extensive report on the dangers of climate change to the human future—wars, mass migrations, etc.

Visit your nearest collegiate library at a substantial university possessed of a geology school, and have a look, in their reference section, at the Geological Society of America's Treatise on North American Geology, vol. x, "The Non-Glacial Quaternary of North America", and have a look at the climatological discussion of the Pleistocene, or Ice Age.

We are still in the Pleistocene, pace the classical geological teaching that the Pleistocene is now over, and we are in the Holocene instead. Take a look at the scholarship on paleotemperatures in the Introduction, during the glacial and interglacial epochs. We are in an interglacial reprieve.

In North America, the last full glacial (pleniglacial) episode was called the Wisconsinian and was less severe than the two preceding pleniglacials.

The thing to be looked at is to compare the paleotemperature curves compiled by researchers for the different interglacials and notice that they all have the same general form. They all start out with a bang, with vertically-rising temperatures from glacial frigidity to a palmy warmth that is typically 3-6o C warmer than we see currently, even allowing for the last 200 years warming up out of the temperature "hole" that was the 18th-century Dalton Minimum. The curves have a cockscomb form because they are modulated (or "convolved") with other temperature inputs like nutation and precession cycles: think of a yo-yo being carried, first upstairs, and then along a gallery. Eventually the temperature curves gradually decline over thousands of years, still yo-yo'ing, and eventually crash suddenly back to pleniglacial conditions.

We are in the stage where, having long ago come off what scientists now call the "Climatic Optimum" (ending 6000 years ago, with a shorter coda or reprieve lasting a few centuries and ending about 2500 BC), we are oscillating downward toward the eventual end of this interglacial epoch, which by my correlation with previous interglacials (this is only a guesstimate) will end anywhere from 600 to 1800 years from now.

Our fourth-, fifth-, or sixth-order oscillations are what the excitement has been about the last 30 years, which is like fascinating over wrinkles on an elephant's butt. The temperature oscillations known to us as the "Medieval Warm", etc., are those short, high-frequency transients that have been observed in all the data going back 2,000,000 years, long before industrialization, and which therefore have nothing to do with human activity, any more than the recently-noticed shrinkage of the polar ice caps on Mars.

Whatever future climate changes may be in store have very little to do with us, except as more excuses for totalitarians to demand total power over our lives. The earth itself really, truly does not care.

42 posted on 11/26/2015 8:37:47 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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