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Turkish F-16 shoots down Russian fighter jet near Syria border
Fox News ^ | November 24, 2015 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 11/24/2015 4:12:15 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Two Turkish F-16 fighter jets shot down a Russian warplane near Turkey's border with Syria Tuesday in an incident that raises the possibility of conflict between Moscow and NATO.

A U.S. official confirmed to Fox News that the Russian Sukhoi-24 was downed by an air-to-air missile north of the Syrian port city of Latakia. The official added that the Russian jet was warned three times to depart Turkish airspace.

The official told Fox News that the Su-24's two pilots parachuted safely and were last seen attempting to evade capture. Two Russian helicopters were airborne to attempt a rescue mission.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: iran; isis; nato; russia; syria; turkey
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To: AlaskaErik
I’m not sure why Turkey is part of NATO. They seem to be more aligned with ISIS.

Artifact of the Cold War. And Erdogan has been taking them more and more fundamental and further and further away from Ataturk's founding tenets.

21 posted on 11/24/2015 4:47:50 AM PST by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty)
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To: Timber Rattler; All
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Mother of God ...

This mess will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it ...


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22 posted on 11/24/2015 4:50:56 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Vermont Lt

Turkey is no ally. They started it, let them finish it.


23 posted on 11/24/2015 4:51:13 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: Timber Rattler

24 posted on 11/24/2015 4:51:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

No, there is no good reason for the Turks to have shot 1st. I think we need to look at just what is going on along the Turkey-Syria border. Just why is ISIS not being economically isolated by closing the borders around it?


25 posted on 11/24/2015 4:52:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: bert

How did the pilots end up in Syrian hands if they were shot down over Turkey?


26 posted on 11/24/2015 4:53:11 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Dallas59

If NATO is half-way smart, they will abandon Turkey immediately. As much as any neighboring nation, Turkey has provided help, logistics and a clandestine trading partnership with the Islamic State, enabling them to expand and have some degree of territorial sanctity.

The present leadership of Turkey WANTS the development of a Caliphate, as part of restoring the old Ottoman Empire, which, until the revolt of “the young Turks” was a theocratic dictatorship, in all respects a caliphate, that was constantly at war with either Russia or Greece, and conducted one of the most massive of genocides against the Christian Armenians, that the world had seen up until that time.

When the revolt of “the young Turks” was over, the remaining parts of the former Ottoman Empire has become a hodgepodge of secular nations, free of the yoke of the theocracy that had dominated the territory since the fall of Byzantium. But this group of secular nations, having no history of rule by parliaments or any elective posts, soon became various suzerainties under the rule of strongmen, that fell prey to colonial conquests by France, England and Russia, countries which had a heyday carving up the land into various artificial territories, without regard to the tribes and nomadic cultures that lived there.

Turkey was once regarded as “the sick old man of Europe”, and by all odds, has suffered a serious relapse of that same sickness.


27 posted on 11/24/2015 4:53:18 AM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: MNJohnnie

glide


28 posted on 11/24/2015 4:55:22 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: bert
Maybe or maybe not. The fact is that NATO has now fired first, and that the Turks have shot down a warplane and killed two airmen in the service of a country armed with some 2,500 deployed nuclear weapons, a huge modern military, and an air force demonstrably capable of conducting long-range power-projection operations. Heck, just last week, the Russians executed their very own Arc Light raid in Syria. So this is not some tin-horn third world power that the Turks just ticked off, but an aggressive monster that can level not only Turkey but Western Europe and the U.S. itself.

The stupidity of it all, and it goes back to Obama's support of the "Arab Spring" in Syria and attempts at ousting Assad.

29 posted on 11/24/2015 4:56:26 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

yes but..... the good part is that what you have described is a situation to be worked out by diplomats and lawyers. We, as Americans, have a battalion of war lawyers trained for just such a dilemma.

With Sec Kerry at the rear carrying the regimental colors, the lawyers will leap into the battle


30 posted on 11/24/2015 5:00:22 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

No argument that I have no interest in dropping a single drop of blood for Turkey, we ARE a NATO ally.


31 posted on 11/24/2015 5:17:59 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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