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The SAFE Act of 2015 is a fraud, because it depends on the Obama regime FBI and Homeland Security. Even if it passed a veto, nothing would change in terms of security. Its only virtue is that it forces Democrats to vote on this and shows that they don't care about security. The problem is that is a fraud and shows us what we can expect from a "conservative" Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, who called opponents of welfare for illegal aliens racist.
1 posted on 11/19/2015 6:18:13 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew

Jeff Sessions, the last American patriot


2 posted on 11/19/2015 6:19:36 PM PST by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: rmlew

The purpose of this act is not to keep out terrorists. It is designed to annoy Obama, and make him so angry that the Democrats cannot possibly win in 2016. So far, it’s working.


3 posted on 11/19/2015 6:21:38 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: rmlew
How do you vet someone when there is no docrmentation ?
I don't know .. somebody ought to ask Obama
(It's a thought question, ... thinking ,...thinking , etc.)
since not much data about Obama has come forth ,
.. and see what we've got ?..for another 14 months.
4 posted on 11/19/2015 6:29:48 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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Just another “dog and pony” show for the American people! This is why so many Americans are supporting Trump, these GOPe RINO’s just don't get it, but, this election is going to be the turning point in our Countries safety and destination, either we preserve this Nation and the American people or we will be forced to fight one hell of a war to regain control back over our Country!!!!

Stay safe my fellow Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5 posted on 11/19/2015 6:32:28 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN Alfa Team Leader 2nd civil war is coming to the USA)
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To: rmlew

It was nuthin but cover for congressmen to claim they did something.


7 posted on 11/19/2015 6:35:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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"Even if it passed a veto, nothing would change in terms of security."

If this is true, as I ranted in a related thread, corrupt, incumbent lawmakers probably started this legislation merely as a dog-and-pony show to get reelected next year.

And based on the writings of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, Madison regarded as the father of the Constitution, that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution the specific power to regulate immigration.

Here is the relevant excerpt from Jeffersons writings.

” 4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that ”the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled ”An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force [emphasis added].” Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

Here is the related excerpt from Madison's writings from the Virginia Resolutions.

"That the General Assembly doth particularly protest against the palpable and alarming infractions of the Constitution, in the two late cases of the ”Alien and Sedition Acts" passed at the last session of Congress; the first of which exercises a power no where delegated to the federal government, ...

. . .

. . . the General Assembly doth solemenly appeal to the like dispositions of the other states, in confidence that they will concur with this commonwealth in declaring, as it does hereby declare, that the acts aforesaid, are unconstitutional; and that the necessary and proper measures will be taken by each, for co-operating with this state, in maintaining the Authorities, Rights, and Liberties, referred to the States respectively, or to the people [emphasis added]. ” James Madison, Draft of the Virginia Resolutions - December 1798.


12 posted on 11/19/2015 6:49:04 PM PST by Amendment10
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Sessions makes a good point about the additional costs that we will be incurring with this group of Syrian refugees.

the House plan does not offset a single penny of increased refugee resettlement costs. As currently structured, the House plan would give the president the money he wants for refugee resettlement and then leave taxpayers on the hook now and in the years to come for the tens of billions of dollars in uncapped welfare, education, and entitlement costs certain to accrue. Thus, in addition to the enormous welfare costs — 91 percent of recent Middle Eastern refugees are on food stamps and 73 percent receive free health care — we will also be taking money directly from Americans’ Social Security and Medicare trust funds to provide retirement benefits for refugees. The real costs of this refugee expansion have not even been ascertained.

A recent analysis finds that admitting 10,000 refugees to the United States presents a net lifetime cost to taxpayers of $6.5 billion, meaning that under the current plan to admit 85,000 refugees this fiscal year, taxpayers will be on the hook for $55 billion

13 posted on 11/19/2015 6:49:48 PM PST by Girlene
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In addition to all of the obvious costs of relocating “refugees” I wouldn’t be surprised if the US govt doesn’t pay companies to hire(subsidize) them and “displace” Americans. I have no proof of this but I so distrust FedGov™ at this point I am paranoid.


14 posted on 11/19/2015 6:57:37 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rmlew

The refugees probably have a doctored version of the Obama birth certificate off the internet.

Hey if its good enough for the President.....


15 posted on 11/19/2015 7:00:06 PM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: rmlew

I’d like to hear HOW to vet homeless refugees to prove they are not associated with terrorists. Exactly how is this done?

We do not need more people on welfare. When my family immigrated, my grandfather had to already have a job / sponsor before he could come and bring his family. He worked for his cousin in a yarn factory here.


16 posted on 11/19/2015 7:05:25 PM PST by Yaelle
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Send them to Camden, NJ:

https://www.facebook.com/thephillyoffensive/photos/a.413632155390366.98965.390697847683797/904514349635475/?type=3


18 posted on 11/19/2015 7:10:52 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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Regarding the corrupt federal governments welcoming of unwelcome Syrian refugees, note that James Madison and Thomas Jefferson warned that the corrupt federal government takes advantange of questionable situations to unconstitutionally expand its powers.
25 posted on 11/20/2015 12:38:21 PM PST by Amendment10
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