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To: Talkwire
people in custody are not slaves.

Looks like someone didn't bother to ever read the Constitution. Maybe the dude (or dudette - not sure what a Jaye is) ought to try going to a decent law school.

13th Amendment, Section 1: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

6 posted on 11/19/2015 4:54:24 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Of course. But I believe he’s talking about those still awaiting trial / hearing.


12 posted on 11/19/2015 4:59:34 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: PAR35

Article mentions that 78% of detainees in that jail are “pre-sentence”, so they are not guilty of anything except not being to afford bail.


13 posted on 11/19/2015 5:00:38 PM PST by Talkwire
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To: PAR35

Looks like someone didn’t bother to read the article.


17 posted on 11/19/2015 5:03:27 PM PST by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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So, forcing me to feed and clothe and provide shelter for someone to sit on their ass and play spades or watch tv all day is not slavery?


22 posted on 11/19/2015 5:10:56 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: PAR35

Gude shew, chap!


25 posted on 11/19/2015 5:18:38 PM PST by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: PAR35
+1

Then again, here on the outside...we are all just wage slaves of the federal government.

39 posted on 11/19/2015 6:20:50 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: PAR35; Michael.SF.; Rurudyne
PAR35 posted from the US Constitution in rebuttal to Jaye Ryan, the article author: 13th Amendment, Section 1: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

The party(s) haven't been duly convicted.

You keep squawking about "slavery", in order to distract from the "or" clause: "involuntary servitude".

Imprisoned, not "duly convicted" and forced to pay "road agent" rates to the private monopoly comes under the heading of involuntary servitude [involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion other than the worker's financial needs.] Someone labored to produce the money to pay off the monopoly.

You're hoist by your own post, PAR35.

45 posted on 11/19/2015 6:47:17 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: PAR35

I got around to looking her up - Law School: Univ of West Los Angeles; Los Angeles CA. Not exactly a highly rated school.


59 posted on 11/19/2015 7:30:52 PM PST by PAR35
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