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Russia Explains To Clueless US Public Why Obama Can't Defeat ISIS
Zerohdge ^ | 11-18-2015 | Durden

Posted on 11/18/2015 5:13:01 PM PST by tcrlaf

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To: Bobalu

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21 posted on 11/18/2015 6:32:50 PM PST by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: ETL

Lol...are you posting from your “lair” in Queens Village tonight or have the men in the white coats removed you to a safer location?


22 posted on 11/18/2015 6:39:48 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ETL

Your “0bama loves the CCCP” spiel badly breaks down in the Crimea/Ukraine.


23 posted on 11/18/2015 6:44:13 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: tcrlaf

Russia is correct on this.


24 posted on 11/18/2015 6:45:01 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: tcrlaf

REMEMBER! Back when Russia first started bombing ISIS, all of the FR neocons were pretending that the MiGs would all break down from the sand...


25 posted on 11/18/2015 6:45:09 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: mac_truck

Lol! I like the way all of you KGB Putin-loving a-holes pop up out of the woodwork to support each other. You’re like a bunch of roaches crawling out from under the sink.


26 posted on 11/18/2015 6:48:45 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: Cold Heat

Yup, your assessment is dead on.
This is all being deliberately orchestrated to diminish US and Nato country power and security.
Obola, Soros, ValJar, and socialists are executing their NWO plans fiendishly brilliant.
After all, Obama was recorded telling Putin that “he would have more flexibility after the (2012) election”.
Unfortunately, many US / FR Putinistas are dupes, naively misplacing their admiration and trust of Russia’s strongman, forgetting that he’s a brutal KGB thug thief master chess player.
His King will take our Queen, with an aim to win shared global supremacy with China.
Guaranteed.


27 posted on 11/18/2015 6:53:09 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: ETL

Reply meant for you ETL, Cold Warrior with sound geopolitical memory and reasoning.

Yup, your assessment is dead on.
This is all being deliberately orchestrated to diminish US and Nato country power and security.
Obola, Soros, ValJar, and socialists are executing their NWO plans fiendishly brilliant.
After all, Obama was recorded telling Putin that “he would have more flexibility after the (2012) election”.
Unfortunately, many US / FR Putinistas are dupes, naively misplacing their admiration and trust of Russia’s strongman, forgetting that he’s a brutal KGB thug thief master chess player.
His King will take our Queen, with an aim to win shared global supremacy with China.
Guaranteed.


28 posted on 11/18/2015 6:56:47 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: ETL

I second that - we are infested with Kremlin paid Putin promoting trolls.

“Lol! I like the way all of you KGB Putin-loving a-holes pop up out of the woodwork to support each other. You’re like a bunch of roaches crawling out from under the sink.”


29 posted on 11/18/2015 7:01:39 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Cold Heat

You fail to observe that Shia is not responsible for Wahhabi sect Sunni ISIS — do you? You don’t know that Shiites were not involved in attacking our shores— EVER!! Do you? You don’t have a clue as to who the enemy is DO YOU? Don’t give me the Hezbollah crap. Not interested at all. I’m interested in the Sunni sect that wants to kill you and me. WAKE UP !!


30 posted on 11/18/2015 7:04:34 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE

Still here, noob? That can be fixed...


31 posted on 11/18/2015 7:08:27 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias. "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Cold Heat

The Russians are killing ISIS as we speak. Please , in your infinite knowledge, explain to you vast readership what Assad has ever done to the United States of America. In doing so, please enumerate 1 to 100 so we can absorb your vast knowledge of their attacks on our soil. Go!!!


32 posted on 11/18/2015 7:10:03 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: tcrlaf

At the start of the regime, Hitlery proudly proclaimed that the US had 6,000 nukes. If that question is asked again, I am sure the answer would be vastly lower.


33 posted on 11/18/2015 7:11:56 PM PST by depressed in 06
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To: MarchonDC09122009

There are certainly a fairly decent number of them.

Kind of makes me retch.

There has been a rather heavy effort in recent decades at our universities to make Russia palatable. Goes way back but it never really slowed down.

Unfortunately today, with O’bozo hacking up everything that even meant anything, some people plainly do not see Putin as part of a long time foe because he makes Obama look silly and that is a good thing...or so they say.

But it is not a good thing, it’s a ignorant box of rocks dumb thing on Obama’s part and once that geopolitical basket is overturned and new alliances are formed with Russia, (Putin’s end game) there will be no need for NATO and we lose most of Europe to Russia’s sphere of influence.

I’d like to see how anyone fixes that, because it’s already occurring as we watch.


34 posted on 11/18/2015 7:13:41 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: elpadre

We are going to defund the “universities” real bad. These feckless communists are going under rocks where they belong. Trump is coming. There will be no PC BS!!


35 posted on 11/18/2015 7:14:39 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE

I don’t fail to realize anything. I said that you fail to realize that in this case it does not matter. Iran is using them to become Iraq’s new masters, and Putin is using them as part of him game to expand his influence.

He is entertaining the president of France next week. Others will follow. He has feckless Obama letting NATO go....It’s just exactly what he wants..

Then he can play hero and save the day, but until then, he needs ISIS to destabilize Europe, and the middle East.

This is how high stakes geopolitics is played and since Obama has no clue, Putin is clearly running the table while Iran does the same thing!

ISIS to them is not a religion issue...It’s just a tool to destabilize the regions they want. When they are done with them they will destroy them, but not until.


36 posted on 11/18/2015 7:22:43 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: WENDLE

This is way over Trumps head.

Sorry Wendle, but he’s not the guy. This is not about PC or deals. This is about who has the biggest pair and can exploit the other’s weaknesses.

Yeah, I forgot...trump will hire someone....right?


37 posted on 11/18/2015 7:25:33 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: WENDLE; Cold Heat; MarchonDC09122009
You don't know that Shiites were not involved in attacking our shores- EVER!! Do you? You don't have a clue as to who the enemy is DO YOU?

Iran Funnels New Weapons to Iraq and Afghanistan

By Jay Solomon
July 2, 2011

TEHRAN - Iran's elite military unit, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, has transferred lethal new munitions to its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent months, according to senior U.S. officials, in a bid to accelerate the U.S. withdrawals from these countries.

The Revolutionary Guard has smuggled rocket-assisted exploding projectiles to its militia allies in Iraq, weapons that have already resulted in the deaths of American troops, defense officials said.

They said Iranians have also given long-range rockets to the Taliban in Afghanistan, increasing the insurgents' ability to hit U.S. and other coalition positions from a safer distance.

Such arms shipments would escalate the shadow competition for influence playing out between Tehran and Washington across the Middle East and North Africa, fueled by U.S. preparations to draw down forces from two wars and the political rebellions that are sweeping the region.

The U.S. is wrestling with the aftermath of uprisings against longtime Arab allies from Tunisia to Bahrain, and trying to leave behind stable, friendly governments in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran appears to be trying to gain political ground amid the turmoil and to make the U.S. withdrawals as quick and painful as possible.

"I think we are likely to see these Iranian-backed groups continue to maintain high attack levels" as the exit date nears, Maj. Gen. James Buchanan, the U.S. military's top spokesman in Iraq, said in an interview. "But they are not going to deter us from doing everything we can to help the Iraqi security forces."

A security check in Baghdad on June 6, a day when attacks the U.S. links to Iranian arms killed six Americans.

In June, 15 U.S. servicemen died in Iraq, the highest monthly casualty figure there in more than two years. The U.S. has attributed all the attacks to Shiite militias it says are are trained by the Revolutionary Guards, rather than al Qaeda or other Sunni groups that were the most lethal forces inside Iraq a few years ago.

In Afghanistan, the Pentagon has in recent months traced to Iran the Taliban's acquisition of rockets that give its fighters roughly double the range to attack North Atlantic Treaty Organization and U.S. targets. U.S. officials said the rockets' markings, and the location of their discovery, give them a "high degree" of confidence that they came from the Revolutionary Guard's overseas unit, the Qods Force.

U.S. defense officials are also increasingly concerned that Iran's stepped-up military activities in the Persian Gulf could inadvertently trigger a clash. A number of near misses involving Iranian and allied ships and planes in those waters in recent months have caused Navy officials to call for improved communication in the Gulf.

Iran's assertive foreign policy comes amid a growing power struggle between President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Many of the president's closest aides have been detained on alleged corruption charges in recent weeks, raising questions as to whether Mr. Ahmadinejad will serve out his term.U.S. and European officials also say Iran has grown increasingly aggressive in trying to influence the political rebellions across the Middle East and North Africa. Tehran is alleged to have dispatched military advisers to Syria to help President Bashar al-Assad put down a popular uprising.

In recent months, according to U.S. officials, Iran has also increased its intelligence and propaganda activities in Egypt, Bahrain and Yemen, countries where pro-U.S. leaders have either fallen or come under intense pressure.

Iranian officials denied in interviews and briefings this week that the Revolutionary Guard played any role in arming militants in Iraq and Afghanistan. They charged the U.S. with concocting these stories to justify maintaining an American military presence in the region.

"This is the propaganda of the Americans. They are worried because they have to leave Iraq very soon, according to the plan," said Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast. "They are better off going home and sorting out their own domestic problems."

Iranians officials have also accused the U.S. and Israel of interfering in Iranian affairs, including assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists and supporting opposition groups. The U.S. and Israel have denied this.

In recent weeks, Iran's leadership invited the presidents of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq to Tehran to discuss regional affairs. Senior Iranian officials made it clear during those meetings that they wanted an accelerated exit of American forces from the region.

"Americans want to have permanent bases in Afghanistan, and this is dangerous because the real security will not be established as long as the American military forces are present," Ayatollah Khamenei told Afghan President Hamid Karzai last week, according to Iranian state media.

Iraq has in recent years been a proxy battlefield for the U.S. and Iran. U.S. officials in Iraq said the Qods Force is training and arming three primary militias that have in recent months attacked U.S. and Iraqi forces. Kata'ib Hezbollah, or Brigades of the Party of God, is viewed as the one most directly taking orders from Revolutionary Guard commanders in Iran. Two others, the Promise Day Brigade and Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, are offshoots of the Mahdi Army headed by the anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who currently lives in Iran.

Over the past six months, Kata'ib Hezbollah has escalated attacks on U.S. forces employing weapons called IRAMs, or improvised rocket-assisted munitions. The weapons are often propane tanks packed with hundreds of pounds of explosives and powered by rockets. Militiamen launch the weapons from the backs of flatbed trucks.

Kata'ib Hezbollah claimed credit for a June 6 IRAM attack that killed six American troops at Camp Victory, near Baghdad International Airport. This week, three more Americans were killed when an IRAM struck a desert base just a few miles from the Iranian border in Iraq's Wasit Province, according to U.S. officials.

"We believe the militias see themselves as in competition with each other," said Gen. Buchanan. "They want to claim credit for making us leave Iraq."

The U.S. believes Iranian involvement in Afghanistan is significantly lower than in Iraq. But U.S. officials said they have seen clear evidence that the Revolutionary Guard has transferred longer-range rockets to elements of the Taliban that significantly enhance their ability to target U.S. and other NATO forces.

In February, British forces intercepted a shipment of four dozen 122-millimeter rockets moving through Afghanistan's desolate Nimruz Province near the Iranian and Pakistan borders. The rockets have an estimated range of about 13 miles, more than double the distance of the majority of the Taliban's other rockets.

"It was the first time we've seen that weapon," said a senior U.S. defense official in Afghanistan. "We saw that as upping the ante a bit from the kind of support we've seen in the past."

U.S. officials stressed that most of Iran's influence in Afghanistan is channeled through "soft power"-business, aid and diplomacy. But these officials said the deployment of more U.S. and NATO forces along the Afghan-Iranian border as part of the Obama administration's Afghanistan "surge" appears to have raised Iran's sense of insecurity.

These officials said Iran's support for the Taliban appears to wax and wane in relation to how successful Washington and NATO appear to be in stabilizing Afghanistan. Shiite-majority Iran has traditionally viewed the Taliban, a Sunni group, with trepidation. The two sides nearly fought a war in 1998 after the Taliban executed Iranian diplomats based in the central Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif.

"They're supporting the Taliban because they want us out of here," said the U.S. official in Afghanistan. "If we're making gains, I can see them upping their support. If they're making gains, they'll probably stay quiet."

In large part because of the growing wariness over Iran's backing of Shiite militias in Iraq, the U.S. is considering altering its withdrawal plans from the country, say administration and defense officials.

All U.S. forces are due to depart at the end of the year, but senior American officials have hinted loudly that they would like Baghdad to ask the U.S. to keep a viable force in the country beyond that date. Some administration and military officials have talked about retaining 10,000 troops in Iraq.

Military officials and defense analysts cite Iran as a prime justification for extending the U.S. presence. They say Iran is trying to use its military, which is much more powerful than Iraq's, and Shiite proxy militias inside Iraq to pressure Baghdad to maintain close ties with Tehran.

Adm. William McRaven, the administration's nominee to lead Special Operations Command, told a Senate panel this week that he favors keeping a commando force in Iraq that would be available to counter threats.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303763404576420080640167182

38 posted on 11/18/2015 7:26:44 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: Cold Heat

It is 100 % a religious war. It is us against them. We have been blinded with homo sitcoms and pro football and march madness thump thump because we are imbecilic after the “education” they withheld from us. But when the children start dieing, there will be great waling and gnashing of teeth. Reality will be very ugly.


39 posted on 11/18/2015 7:29:19 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE
in your infinite knowledge, explain to you vast readership what Assad has ever done to the United States of America.

I only brought up Assad because that is why Putin is in Syria. Not to destroy ISIS, but to save Assad. As to what he did to the US, you will need to pose that question to Obama. It's his admin that is trying to unseat him.

IMO, Getting rid of Assad is no longer a option. Had the initial revolution quickly succeeded and forced him out, we could have aided the restructuring after the fact, but it's way past that now...It's the US left that wants Assad out. Not me..

40 posted on 11/18/2015 7:31:50 PM PST by Cold Heat
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