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Jesus Christ, the Key to Unlocking All of Scripture
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2015 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 11/10/2015 7:05:28 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
There is no difference between the eternal, perfect and omnibenevolent God of the Old Testament and the one we worship today.

My belief is that God exists beyond the realm of time. That He cannot change because time is something He controls, not the other way around. Once you understand that, you realize that God exists and that He sees the entire span of history as a timeline where He interjects himself as He chooses.

It is cautionary, though, to apply everything Old Testament to the Christian today because, in Christ, we are under a New Testament of salvation through faith rather than one of laws. We have freedom that the OT Hebrews did not have. Were that not true, the early Christian church would have led converts to exercise the same disciplines as the Old Testament Hebrews.

We have a freedom In Christ and with the aid of the Holy Spirit that was not available to the OT Hebrews.

I agree that the entire Bible points to Jesus but it would be wrong to apply Mosaic law to today's Christians.

21 posted on 11/10/2015 8:39:01 AM PST by OrangeHoof (SECEDE TEXAS!! If not now, when?)
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To: OrangeHoof
God exists and that He sees the entire span of history as a timeline where He interjects himself as He chooses.

Clearly, God exists in at least two dimensions of time (although "dimensions" is merely our term, not necessarily His). One easy way to visualize His interjecting Himself, as you describe, is to imagine God dealing with time not in a plane but as a globe. As our linear time progresses around its equator, God can drop down from His vantage point on its pole anywhere on that timeline, past/present/future. I'm sure it's an imperfect analogy, but I learned it from a Christian astrophysicist, so it has that credential, at least. If it's not helpful, just ignore it.

22 posted on 11/10/2015 9:03:49 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: circlecity
He's right in that you cannot truly understand the NT without a good familiarity and understanding of the OT. And vice-versa.

You're absolutely correct.

The NT is on the OT concealed. The OT is in the NT revealed.

23 posted on 11/10/2015 9:07:46 AM PST by rdb3 (SOCIAL MEDIA IS A SEWER!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Romans is one powerful book!


24 posted on 11/10/2015 9:18:25 AM PST by rdb3 (SOCIAL MEDIA IS A SEWER!)
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To: Kaslin
I teach Sunday School at my church and am constantly awe struck at the lack of knowledge for the average adult Christian. I'm 64, so I still remember when we prayed in school, used the Bible for History, and left our doors unlocked BTW.If you just had access to Genesis, you should be able to see Jesus as Savior and King. Passover in Exodus was a visual picture of Armageddon and our salvation through the blood of a sacrificial lamb on Passover. Leviticus sets up the "Lord's appointed Feast days" that would be the dress rehearsals for things to come, Moses was shown as a "type" of Jesus throughout the wilderness, and Joshua is a picture of Revelation in the Last Days showing Joshua taking the occupied land from the usurpers. Even to the 2 witnesses showing up at key times throughout Scripture. All of the prophets wrote of the Last days Joel, Amos, Zep, Zech, Hosea, Ezekiel, and of course Daniel, is more of the same.

When people say they don't understand Daniel or Revelation, the Bible is self explanatory, you just have to read ALL of it. You have to understand a "woman" is a church, or religion, Bread, meat, milk, and honey, is the Word of God, Birds, wild beasts, serpents, are all demons. Branches are people, the root or vine is Jesus, a horn is a king, stars are angels, and on and on. All symbols are explained somewhere in the Bible. In Mark 8:22-25, Jesus healed a blind man, but when he first touched him, the man said he saw "men, like trees, walking. Jesus had healed his Spiritual sight first. Then healed his worldly sight. It was more important for him to see things Spiritually than have worldly sight. Men walking like trees is all through the Scripture. Olive trees are Spirit filled men.

Jesus spoke in parables and explained them to His disciples. He did Not explain everything to everyone. I had it explained to me this way,...Jesus wants true believers, believers with the Holy Spirit burning inside them, to hunt for the answers. It's like a child on an Easter Egg hunt. Some eggs are right out in plain view, but others are hidden behind, underneath, and even inside other objects, depending on how bad you want the answer. People tend to stop looking when they are satisfied they know it all, or at least enough, or maybe when it takes a little work.

Much of it is in plain sight, yet we miss it. If we look at Noah and the Flood as a type for Judgement Day, it shows that Noah was warned of the impending destruction and followed through with preparation. But what many miss is Noah was told 7 days before the rain started to get into the Ark.(Gen 7:4) If getting into the Ark is comparable to the Rapture, we will know when it is coming, which many say you CAN'T know. If you know the Feast of Trumpets and know that it has a "last Trump" and you see all through Scripture hints of trumpets blowing before that day, then you find out that the Jews will tell you "the day no one knows" is Rosh Hashanah, just as we know "Turkey day" is Thanksgiving, They know "Trumpets" is 2 days, or One long day, according to them. What else do we know about Noah's Food? We know a Covenant was made to Noah to never flood the world again and gave us the Rainbow. Satan is a counterfeiter and a liar. Look at Luke 17:26-36. Could the projection of the rainbow on the White House be a sign of coming judgement? Why was Lot used in verse 28? Satan has repurposed God's sign to mankind for his purpose. Leviticus 18:22 tells us God will judge the country that accepts sodomy. Do we not know the time of the season?

The OT is not another book, but another covenant. The NT takes off directly on the promises of the OT. The OT prophesies the coming Messiah, and the NT shows the prophesies can be trusted to happen just as described and even more noteworthy, on exactly the same days predicted. As Jesus gave up His Spirit on the cross, the Lamb was having his throat cut in the Temple, even down to the minute. All is to show the Bible as trustworthy, yet we treat it as a book of fables and moral stories. Just look at the level of knowledge a young person has today about Spiritual things. Even adults spout off the wall theories with no scripture or misused scripture to back their theory. Pride has taken over the church thinking they know enough, or can't be known, or don't need to know. It is pride that tells us we can't be taught anymore. Scripture tell us we are destroyed for lack of knowledge. There are people that will be left behind thinking they know enough, but will face the Antichrist and the choice to die for Christ, or chose hell. If we read the letters to the churches in Revelation, we find The church at Philadelphia is promised to be kept from the hour of trial coming to test the whole earth. (Rev 3:10) Probably most of the church will be left behind because they fit one of the other 6 churches spoken about.

When Jesus was asked the most important commandment, He replied to love the Lord with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your brother as yourself. All the other "stuff" is nice to know, but not required for a Philadelphia heart. The term "thief in the night" speaks of Christians that aren't watching, aren't found "so doing" When the Thief comes. If you knew when he was coming, you would have watched. Virgins are not lost people, but some Christians can be foolish virgins. Servants do what they are told, but lack the love Jesus is looking for in His bride. We should examine ourselves and see if we have died to the world completely and only live in Christ. The left behind church is spoken of in Rev 4:5, crying out from under the altar. Notice robes were given to them then, but others had their garments when they came. Read Matt 22:1-13.

We do what we do because of love. Either we love Christ, or we love the world. We cannot have 2 masters. Just as Noah and Lot were rescued, He will rescue His bride before destroying the earth. Is earth your home or Heaven? Don't be an "earth dweller". ( look for that phrase and pay attention when you find it)

Those with ears to hear, let them hear.

25 posted on 11/10/2015 9:37:13 AM PST by chuckles
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To: circlecity

Yea, kind of like what does this mean?

“sky rolled back like a scroll”

The old testament uses this phrase or something very similar many times. And it pretty much means a strong government being replaced by a new power. The old one will no longer be read, or used, or have any influence. And a new one is now to be read and executed on.


26 posted on 11/10/2015 9:37:37 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Red Badger
Acts 8:26-40   English Standard Version (ESV)

Philip and the Ethiopian Eunuch

26 Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, "Rise and go toward the south to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza." This is a desert place. 27 And he rose and went. And there was an Ethiopian, a eunuch, a court official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of all her treasure. He had come to Jerusalem to worship 28 and was returning, seated in his chariot, and he was reading the prophet Isaiah. 29 And the Spirit said to Philip, "Go over and join this chariot." 30 So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, "Do you understand what you are reading?" 31 And he said, "How can I, unless someone guides me?" And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. 32 Now the passage of the Scripture that he was reading was this:

"Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter
    and like a lamb before its shearer is silent,
    so he opens not his mouth.
33 In his humiliation justice was denied him.
    Who can describe his generation?
For his life is taken away from the earth."

34 And the eunuch said to Philip, "About whom, I ask you, does the prophet say this, about himself or about someone else?" 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning with this Scripture he told him the good news about Jesus. 36 And as they were going along the road they came to some water, and the eunuch said, "See, here is water! What prevents me from being baptized?"  38 And he commanded the chariot to stop, and they both went down into the water, Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him. 39 And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch saw him no more, and went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip found himself at Azotus, and as he passed through he preached the gospel to all the towns until he came to Caesarea.

27 posted on 11/10/2015 9:59:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chuckles
Those with ears to hear, let them hear.

Some hear things differently...

I'm reminded of what Jesus said when Peter acknowledged Jesus as the Christ, that only God could have revealed that to him.

28 posted on 11/10/2015 9:59:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chuckles
I teach Sunday School at my church and am constantly awe struck at the lack of knowledge for the average adult Christian.

I've been in a similar situation and agree with you.

I find it relatively easy to teach what is in the Bible; than to UNteach what ain't!

29 posted on 11/10/2015 9:59:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I believe the Ark of the Covenant is in Ethiopia, being guarded by these Ethiopian Christians.........................


30 posted on 11/10/2015 10:10:30 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Elsie; chuckles

It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.

Mark Twain


31 posted on 11/10/2015 10:12:05 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger
I don't know; but with all that wood available at your finger tips; I tend to think the thing would be disassembled and re-purposed.

Just a guess...

32 posted on 11/10/2015 10:51:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

You can’t touch it!............................


33 posted on 11/10/2015 10:56:28 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Kaslin; Gamecock; Alex Murphy
Given my own Emmaus road epiphany, it frankly surprises me that so many Christians seem to have a dim view of the Old Testament. They are intimidated by its arcane names and places and the supposed differences between the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament.

Dispensationalism, a low view of God's holiness, an image of a weak and pleading Jesus begging sinners to "make a decision" for him juxtaposed against God the consuming fire Who gives and keeps covenants and of Christ as triumphant King has had untold impact in the unravelling of Western civilization these past 50 years.

This view - the relevance of the OT - is the type of thinking on which America and all that is good about it was founded, and is what Adams meant by a "moral and religious people".

This is a timely release by Limbaugh and I look forward to reading it.

34 posted on 11/10/2015 10:57:12 AM PST by Lexinom
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To: Arlis

Amen! Good post.


35 posted on 11/10/2015 11:12:55 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

It only makes sense. If God gives us understanding (light) on something, and we do not act on it - we are saying back to Him either “I don’t believe You.” or, “I am unwilling to apply that truth to my life.”

Like a child refusing to eat his supper, a parent will not then provide dessert. Or say, “Oh, then what would you like to eat? I’ll fix you whatever you want....” When God gives light/understanding, it is because He knows we need to see something we have not seen before, to know something we have not known before. He knows what we need. If we reject that, why would he give more?

Oswald Chambers astutely pointed out how new light wholly depends on our acting on what light He has already given us.

On the other hand, his infinite mercy and grace NEVER cease to pursue us - unless we harden our hearts against Him.


36 posted on 11/10/2015 11:15:00 AM PST by Arlis ( A "Sacred Cow" Tipping Christian)
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To: don-o

Thanks for sending that link. It was intresting...at the synagogue they are having instruction starting last Shabbat on T’filah....which is water immersion so yeah the Church took a lot of Jewish Liturgy and customs...we also picked up a lot of pagan stuff which how we got Jesus being born in December instead of feast of Tabernacles when he was more than likely born
Be blessed
Freegards
LEX


37 posted on 11/10/2015 11:40:10 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Arlis

Again, aptly put. It is obvious from your posts that you explicitly understand, though you cannot begin to fathom, that all of us woefully underestimate God in every way. Hence, you describe His overwhelming wisdom and love in guiding us, and you discuss us marveling at Him eternally. It’s a pleasure to read you.


38 posted on 11/10/2015 1:48:25 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Thank you. I’ll PM my website where there is a lot more if you are interested.

God bless,

rah


39 posted on 11/10/2015 1:57:47 PM PST by Arlis ( A "Sacred Cow" Tipping Christian)
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To: DungeonMaster

I ordered it from Amazon this morning.


40 posted on 11/10/2015 2:06:53 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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