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Incredible – Amazing – Almost, Well, Unbelievable: Ben Carson Skyrockets With Massive Surge In S
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | November 9 ,2015 | Sundance

Posted on 11/09/2015 5:15:04 PM PST by ncalburt

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/09/incredible-amazing-almost-well-unbelievable-ben-carson-skyrockets-with-massive-surge-in-south-carolina-poll/

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New York; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: carson; carsonsurge; poll; polling; propaganda
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To: entropy12

“FR needs to limit non-contributors to 1 comment per day. This is a splendid conservative forum and if you are unwilling to part with $10 every cycle, we do not need to read your flood of comments.”

Also, you can’t post a new thread unless you are a monthly donor.


41 posted on 11/09/2015 7:30:47 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you use FR and don't donate. That means that you are a Left Wing or Rino plant, to be ignored!)
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To: Amntn

Thanks for the ping.


42 posted on 11/09/2015 8:27:20 PM PST by GOPJ (policy debates rather then journalist clowns posturing and mugging for their fellow journalistsMNJ.)
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To: Post5203

I wouldn’t say stupid but they seem to vote their heart instead of their head.


43 posted on 11/09/2015 8:27:31 PM PST by Amntn
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To: ncalburt

Pollsters should be put out of business. PERIOD!! Not only are they useless numbers guys, they are as dishonest as Bruce Jenner.


44 posted on 11/09/2015 8:39:38 PM PST by V K Lee (uTRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: Albion Wilde; 2ndDivisionVet; 867V309; Abby4116; Amntn; angcat; Awgie; Balding_Eagle; BAW; ...

Take a few minutes to read this,to understand how the Incredible – Amazing – Almost, Well, Unbelievable: Ben Carson Skyrockets With Massive Surge in the rigged polls this past few weeks.


45 posted on 11/09/2015 8:46:37 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you use FR and don't donate. That means that you are a Left Wing or Rino plant, to be ignored!)
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To: ncalburt

I have no way of knowing exactly what is going on, but it makes no sense to me whatsoever that Carson is polling like he is.

There just isn’t the groundswell for it.

He gets a thousand or two people to a book signing. Trump is absolutely mobbed everywhere he goes.


46 posted on 11/09/2015 9:02:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. (Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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To: ncalburt

Marist has a new poll out that shows Republican race as 24-23 Carson over Trump nationally. How do these folks keep putting out this nonsense when so many folks are onto them.


47 posted on 11/09/2015 9:09:41 PM PST by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: sparklite2

Seems like every fifteen minutes I get logged out of FR.
When I log back in, the screen, for just an instant, looks enough like the no such account screen that my heart rate picks up thinking I’m zotted. Argh.

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The rest of us had a vote while you were “logged out”. It was close but you made it back in and I just want you to know, that I voted for you. However, you are now on the infamous Double Secret Probation.

Good luck.

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48 posted on 11/09/2015 9:11:29 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

On 25 October CBS/YouGov had Trump leading Carson 40-23. A 17 point lead does not disappear in two weeks. This ridiculous push poll also said it was probably because Carson had performed great in the last debate! I quit reading after that. Pigs will fly before Ben Carson wins the SC primary. SC is one of the biggest military states in the country. They don’t vote for wishy-washy pacifist girly men for president and that is exactly what the wet-noodle hand-shacking Carson is.


49 posted on 11/09/2015 9:14:42 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: ncalburt

I wonder if people who support Trump are hanging up on the people taking the surveys. I also wonder these polls which show Carson ahead have questions considered to be agenda driven. Which is why the people may be hanging up when called. The MSM networks and colleges seen to have the ones where Trump is behind, when it makes no sense. Has to be a reason more than just jimmied sampling.


50 posted on 11/09/2015 9:24:36 PM PST by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: ncalburt

From the PS poll by leftist Patrick Murray. You know he’s a flake by going crazy with twits telling you how bad Trump is falling apart. What a loser. He needs to find another job. A pollster he ain’t.

OK… let’s see if I have this right:

Of the 401 “likely” voters in the SC GOP primary who were polled, 259 identified themselves as being evangelicals, which is about 65% of those polled (259/401=64.6%) and, according to the poll, of those 259 evangelicals, Carson was the “candidate of choice of about 33% which equates to about 85 people (259x.33=85.47).

BUT, if what I have read is correct, evangelicals compose only about 33% of the population of the State of SC, meaning that evangelicals are over represented in this poll by about 127 people (401x.33=132.33) and 259-132=127.

SO, if the number of evangelicals were fairly represented, it would have been about 132, and of that 132 Carson would get .33%, or about 44 votes from evangelicals, not the 85 above. (132x.33=44). Which is a loss of 41 votes.

Now, even if NONE of those votes went to Trump (and he stayed at 27% overall) Carson could drop from 28% to 18%, which is WAY behind Trump. (401x.28=112) (112-41=71) (71/401=17.8%)

Now, what were the Monmouth Poll results from August? Oh, yeah…
Trump 30%, Carson 15%

Do I have this about right?


51 posted on 11/09/2015 9:30:42 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: ncalburt

Folks should share this link with Matt Drudge


52 posted on 11/09/2015 10:37:10 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Post5203
Are evangelical’s really this stupid?

Look at their pastors, their mega churches, their "prosperity" theology. Yes, they're stupid.

53 posted on 11/09/2015 10:49:02 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: ncalburt

Monmouth U. has always been a suspect pollster. Trump will take SC by about 20 pts easily. I didn’t even have to look to know they cooked this one up.


54 posted on 11/10/2015 2:47:45 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: sparklite2
Gasp. Another heart attack! Seems like every fifteen minutes I get logged out of FR. When I log back in, the screen, for just an instant, looks enough like the “no such account” screen that my heart rate picks up thinking I’m zotted. Argh.

Maybe the meter expired - did you try inserting a few coins?

55 posted on 11/10/2015 3:20:51 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Amntn; Impy

“I’m glad it’s an open primary this time. Trump will have a lot of cross over votes.”

Isn’t that special?


56 posted on 11/10/2015 3:56:22 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC's 2012 Convention actually 'booed' God three times.)
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To: nopardons

Does anyone care about the truth? Or do they want to buy a weekend hatchet job of a fine Christian man who had once been a troubled soul?

Ben Carsons mother verified stabbing story in 1997 Parade article

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3358209/posts

[Will Trump mention this? Or is he a character assassin?]


57 posted on 11/10/2015 3:58:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC's 2012 Convention actually 'booed' God three times.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

A leftist enhances his resume with rapes, hitting their mother with a hammer, stabbing people, etc...

Carson is a leftist on so many issues
- gun control
- pro-amnesty
- pro TPP
etc, etc, etc...


58 posted on 11/10/2015 4:02:12 AM PST by newfreep (TRUMP/Cruz 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Red Steel

You should listen to FOX this morning. They have Carson mania and they keep talking how he is beating Trump.

I have always thought they were using Carson to get rid of Trump.


59 posted on 11/10/2015 4:09:10 AM PST by dforest
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To: BigEdLB
I wonder if people who support Trump are hanging up on the people taking the surveys

If I don't recognize a number on caller ID I google the number before blocking. The Carson campaign called every day for several weeks (different numbers) and they are all blocked so I am one that they can't poll. Seems a lot of us do the same. They were consistent, I'll give them that.

60 posted on 11/10/2015 4:18:52 AM PST by Abby4116
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