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Ben Carson Facebook Post August 13th 2015 (says he was thrilled to get offer from West Point)
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Posted on 11/06/2015 11:13:07 AM PST by springwater13

The next question is from Bill. He wanted to know if it was true that I was offered a slot at West Point after high school.

Bill, that is true. I was the highest student ROTC member in Detroit and was thrilled to get an offer from West Point. But I knew medicine is what I wanted to do. So I applied to only one school. (it was all the money I had). I applied to Yale and thank God they accepted me. I often wonder what might have happened had they said no.

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1 posted on 11/06/2015 11:13:07 AM PST by springwater13
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To: springwater13

He said he only applied to one school. Even though one is appointed to the academies, one still has to apply and go through a lengthy set of interviews etc. Sounds like he was encouraged to apply but didn’t. That’s not actually an “offer” to be a cadet but an offer to apply.


2 posted on 11/06/2015 11:16:22 AM PST by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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To: springwater13
Now that is a fabrication. He was not offered a slot. Slots are limited.

One cannot confuse the offer of a nomination by military officials with being offered a slot by West Point.

That Facebook post may be his undoing on this matter.

3 posted on 11/06/2015 11:18:53 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: springwater13

Not a Carson for president and this won’t make me one, but this shows how scared they are of a Black conservative.


4 posted on 11/06/2015 11:19:39 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: springwater13

It certainly sounds like he embellished the story quite a bit.

If Carson was in high school at the time, he would have been in JOUNIOR ROTC. Has anyone tried to verify that he had lunch with Westmoreland, and that he was in fact the best JR ROTC cadet in Detroit? Someone should do that, and see if that part of it is even true.


5 posted on 11/06/2015 11:19:39 AM PST by euram
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To: Mercat

If that’s true then the Politico piece is a dishonest distortion of the facts. Looks like they are starting to fear/hate Carson the way they fear/hate Trump.


6 posted on 11/06/2015 11:19:43 AM PST by Another Post-American (Jesus died for your sins.)
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To: springwater13

Pathetic desperation. The lie has been exposed and rather then admit the lie, the attack bots cling to it.

Why does anyone take these habitual liars seriously?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=110615-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn;t where I saw myself going.


7 posted on 11/06/2015 11:20:23 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Mercat

Fake gangsta, atrocious hip-hop pandering, pyramid weirdness, and now lying about a service record, or at least the offer to begin a career in one.

Stick a fork in Dr. Carson, he is well-done.


8 posted on 11/06/2015 11:20:34 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Pathetic desperation. The lie has been exposed and rather then admit the lie, the attack bots cling to it.

Why does anyone take these habitual liars seriously?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=110615-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn;t where I saw myself going.


9 posted on 11/06/2015 11:20:40 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: springwater13

The Carson defenders are unreal, all because the story is from Politico. Carson at best embellished. I believe he knowingly lied. As a service academy graduate, they do not fling “scholarships” around. The entire process is long, drawn out, requires an appointment from a congressman or senator and you most certainly know when you receive an appt. It’s a big deal and they trot you out to your congresscritter or senator for the dog and pony show. Still have my picture with Bill Bradley. In fact, the Army even denies that Westmoreland was in Detroit when Carson said he was. So yes, I believe Ben has knowingly peddled a false story for years.


10 posted on 11/06/2015 11:20:52 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: mquinn

Pathetic desperation. The lie has been exposed and rather then admit the lie, the attack bots cling to it.

Why does anyone take these habitual liars seriously?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=110615-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn;t where I saw myself going.


11 posted on 11/06/2015 11:20:56 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: euram

Pathetic desperation. The lie has been exposed and rather then admit the lie, the attack bots cling to it.

Why does anyone take these habitual liars seriously?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=110615-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn;t where I saw myself going.


12 posted on 11/06/2015 11:21:14 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“That Facebook post may be his undoing on this matter. “

I just don’t see that, it seems more like splitting hairs.

This whole thing reminds me of the rigorous vetting that was done when Barack Obama first ran for president, with so many questions about his background being thoroughly examined by the MSM.

(Do I really need a sarcasm tag here?)


13 posted on 11/06/2015 11:22:15 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: BuckeyeTexan

It looks to me like he’s only guilty of a poor choice of words. He should clarify that he was offered the chance to apply for a slot, not that he was offered a slot.

The fact that he plainly states he only applied to one school (not West Point) is the key point here. It refutes the notion that he’s been claiming he was accepted by West Point, since he didn’t even apply to them and says as much. But his wording was unfortunate, I’ll grant that.


14 posted on 11/06/2015 11:22:28 AM PST by Another Post-American (Jesus died for your sins.)
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To: Mercat
Sounds like he was encouraged to apply but didn't.

I think you've got it right. And to a young person, an encouragement could certainly be taken as an "offer".

I'm not a Carson fan, but I'm nevertheless disappointed by all the attacks Carson is taking for this, from all sides.

15 posted on 11/06/2015 11:22:43 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I don’t like the way that you post things multiple times.


16 posted on 11/06/2015 11:23:27 AM PST by impimp
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To: MNJohnnie

I don’t like the way that you post things multiple times.


17 posted on 11/06/2015 11:23:35 AM PST by impimp
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To: MNJohnnie

I don’t like the way that you post things multiple times.


18 posted on 11/06/2015 11:23:43 AM PST by impimp
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To: Mercat
He said he was offered a slot at West Point. That means he was both accepted by their qualifications and he had an appointment in hand. He repeated the lie in August 2015 so he can't claim immaturity when making the statement.

He did hedge what he said by stating he only applied to one school (how do we know that's true?) so by that second statement he negated the first one.

What it sounds like is Dr. Carson writes whatever narrative suits his purposes, and in this case the two narratives collided.

I guess it is appropriate to compare Dr. Carson's ethics with those of Bill Clinton.

19 posted on 11/06/2015 11:24:00 AM PST by grania
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To: euram

POLITICO verified that Westmoreland attended a banquet in Detroit honoring Congressional Medal of Honor winners.

I don’t know that anyone has verified his JROTC rank.


20 posted on 11/06/2015 11:24:02 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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