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Boehner On Debt Ceiling Deal: Process "Stinks" But Alternative Was Default
Zero Hedge ^ | 10/27/2015 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 10/27/2015 8:54:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

When we presented America's new debt ceiling of $19.6 trillion lasting through March 2017 last week...

 

... some took offense saying a debt ceiling deal is nowhere near done, and that the conservatives would at least put up a token fight. A few days later, the deal is virtually complete, the Freedom Caucus has been isolated, Paul Ryan never even got his hands dirty, and Boehner has caved one last time corporate/democratic prerogatives, precisely as we said would happen.

Yes, the republicans will pretend to demand concessions, such as a balanced budet and other "sound money" conditions but they won't get them because the corporations pulling the strings of every D.C. politicians are the biggest beneficiaries from US debt-funded largesse, especially if one throws in the occasional contained or not so contained war.

 

This means another victory for the Demorats who have required a "clean" debt raise. This is precisely what they will get, and why it will have to take place under John Boehner as Paul Ryan would surely tarnish his reputation with the Freedom Caucus if his first act is one seen as submission to the left.

 

Which means that the only certain outcome from the melodramatic debt ceiling fight over the next several days, is the following: the US is about to have a brand spanking new debt ceiling, one that should last it until March of 2017: $19,600,000,000,000.

Today, as expected, we got the deal under precisely the conditions we envisioned. The WSJ reported:

The White House and congressional leaders reached a tentative deal Monday on a two-year budget plan that also would raise the federal debt limit.

 

If approved by Congress, the broad pact would allow House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) to resolve two of the thorniest fiscal hurdles before he resigns later this week. If it fails, it could leave the U.S. government a week away from potentially being unable to pay all its bills.

 

The plan is designed to remove the risk that the government might default and diminish the prospect of a partial government shutdown in December. It would suspend the debt limit through mid-March 2017 and boost spending by $80 billion through September 2017. Lawmakers still would need to pass detailed spending bills by December, likely in one combined measure.

 

For it to pass the House, the pact will need to quickly win backing from most Democrats and at least a few dozen Republicans who have frequently balked at spending and debt-ceiling bills they say don’t do enough to shrink the budget deficit.

In other words, a "deal" that the majority of the GOP will likely reject, and one which Boehner will ram down the public of the republican party just because.

The deal, which further includes the selling of 58 million barrels of oil from the US SPR for no clear reason - such a sale will only generate $2.5 billion in proceeds - will pass. After all, Congress' personal financial backers, US corporations and Wall Street demand it.

Which leaves us only with the post-mortem soundbites, such as this one moments from from John Boehner.

And as Boehner's last act, he now has the honor of telling the US public that its latest and greatest debt target has just been increased to just shy of $20 trillion, a number that will be reached in about 14-16 months (depending on how many more wars the US will start in the interim). Because when it comes to spending like drunken sailors, there really is zero difference between republicans and democrats.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; budgetdeal; debt; default
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To: SeekAndFind

Can someone here explain what a realistic result of a budget shutdown? So we continue to pay the interest, right? Military and SS. What else?


21 posted on 10/27/2015 9:12:42 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Hoodat

I’ll take ‘Default’. Screw the Fed.

Me too.

Hey, dont send the money to Iran, right there, is a lot.


22 posted on 10/27/2015 9:13:26 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: SeekAndFind

WE may be 20 trillion in debt, but the exempt Inner Party members like Bonehead and `Slow’ Lerner—they all have their gold plated pensions, paid vacations, health benefits, immunity from prosecution, etc. ... it’s nice to know what they really think: that it all “stinks”.

GTH Bonehead, you stinking POS.


23 posted on 10/27/2015 9:16:07 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

token fight = eventual cave


24 posted on 10/27/2015 9:16:34 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Uversabound

Boner is robbing the treasury on his way out the door for his friends on K street. Paul Ryan does nothing. What a wuss.


25 posted on 10/27/2015 9:17:07 AM PDT by magua
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To: LS
This article ought to help...

What Happens During a Government “Shutdown”?


26 posted on 10/27/2015 9:18:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

These morons keep saying default like it’s a dirty word! There is nothing so flexible as an ankle grasping RINO.


27 posted on 10/27/2015 9:21:06 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Jean2

“This clown’s leaving cannot be soon enough for me.”

Problem is, he’s being replaced by another clown! Things won’t get better until voters remove the GoPee from both houses. As things stand, a President Trump will face fierce opposition from the GoPee “leadership” in Congress over everything he wants to do. But I think with Trump, they will have met their match. He will leave their jock straps torn and bloody on the floor of their respective Houses!


28 posted on 10/27/2015 9:21:29 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: tumblindice

As with the 29 year old issue of the ongoing invasion of our country from our southern border—following one amnesty granted by the `movers-and-shakers—average Americans like ourselves are more concerned about our bankrupt country than the ***holes who are actually pulling the levers.

(”Oh well, it stinks but whatchagonnado? We’ll just have to soldier on, bite the bullet, harrumph harrumph harrumph”— Uniparty)


29 posted on 10/27/2015 9:25:06 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The alternative was success.


30 posted on 10/27/2015 9:25:31 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: SeekAndFind
But Alternative Was Default

Male bovine excrement. Congress can pass a spending bill and give it to the pResident for the $61 billion in interest/principal that would prevent a default. Don't even have to raise the debt limit.

Right, Lewwwwww?

5.56mm

31 posted on 10/27/2015 9:26:44 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: SeekAndFind

32 posted on 10/27/2015 9:40:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: vette6387

I can’t wait for that to happen. I suspect you are right about Trump.


33 posted on 10/27/2015 9:40:59 AM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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To: SeekAndFind

BOEHNER SAYS AGREES WITH RYAN THAT PROCESS THAT PRODUCED BUDGET DEAL “STINKS”; BUT ALTERNATIVE WAS CLEAN DEBT CEILING HIKE OR DEFAULT

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They should give acting awards to members of Congress.


34 posted on 10/27/2015 9:43:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Diogenesis

You are too kind.


35 posted on 10/27/2015 9:55:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: vette6387

Liberals are outraged over the deal. It seems nobody is happy with it.


36 posted on 10/27/2015 10:07:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: SeekAndFind

1940-1979 the debt was under control. From 1980 on it has exploded. Such a shame. 5 Presidents have destroyed our financial health. In 35 years, we have spent more then the previous 180 years. So sad.


37 posted on 10/27/2015 10:10:09 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: napscoordinator

“Liberals are outraged over the deal. It seems nobody is happy with it.”

Of course they are. They have honed “outrage” as a mechanism to express their displeasure with not getting everything they wanted. Being “offended” or “outraged” is stock in trade for RATs.


38 posted on 10/27/2015 10:11:41 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: napscoordinator
Liberals are outraged over the deal. It seems nobody is happy with it.
Bet the Chamber of Commerce folks are ecstatic.
39 posted on 10/27/2015 10:14:37 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: vette6387

I think that happens on both sides. Have you not read the articles here today?


40 posted on 10/27/2015 10:22:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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