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Amish man challenges photo ID requirement to buy firearms
WPXI.com ^ | Oct. 25, 2015 | uncredited

Posted on 10/26/2015 8:55:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog

WILLIAMSPORT, Pa. — An Amish resident of central Pennsylvania is challenging the photo identification requirement to purchase a firearm, saying his religious beliefs prevent him from being photographed.

Andrew Hertzler argues in a suit filed Friday in U.S. Middle District Court that the requirement violates his religious freedom and his constitutional right to possess a firearm.

Hertzler said his beliefs as a member of an Amish community in Lancaster County bar photographs being taken of him, but he was prohibited from buying a gun in June for self-defense purposes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amendment; amish; banglist; constitution; firearms; guns; pennsylvania
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Bear is good eating, when is the bear hunting season in PA?


61 posted on 10/26/2015 11:10:07 AM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: PAR35

The government shouldn’t allow him to use a flintlock assault rifle.An assault hammer would be ok though.

That’s the cost of not having. An I.D.


62 posted on 10/26/2015 11:15:29 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: driftdiver

You asked me a question. I answered it. If you don’t understand or don’t like my answer, it’s probably time for us both to move along.


63 posted on 10/26/2015 11:29:02 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Your answer didn’t make sense.


64 posted on 10/26/2015 11:39:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: from occupied ga

Ground Hogs are not porcine.

AKA: Gophers and Woodchucks


65 posted on 10/26/2015 11:48:27 AM PDT by MrNeutron1962
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Black Bear. lol They are cuddly, fun loving gentle bears, right?

A colleague of mine is in the US for a stint from France. She recently took some vacation time to see the Smokey Mountains. Apparently she and some friends were hiking and came upon some cute little black bear cubs. She started to explain to her friends that black bears weren’t really dangerous to humans (she had studied some things about America). To which one of her more experienced American friends replied, “Those cubs are not the threat. And your right, most black bears won’t bother humans. But the momma bear of those cubs doesn’t know any of this. If she shows up, you are going to be the one to explain it to her. I’m leaving.”


66 posted on 10/26/2015 11:48:48 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: unixfox

Easy solution it’s supposed to be a right, not a permission.


67 posted on 10/26/2015 11:49:16 AM PDT by zek157
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To: MrNeutron1962
Ground Hogs are not porcine.

What's a porcine? Is this the same as a Snipe?

68 posted on 10/26/2015 11:55:12 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Next he's going to want a driver's license:

(I couldn't find the image of the buggy with a flak turret)

69 posted on 10/26/2015 12:22:41 PM PDT by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: driftdiver

If I can judge angels, I certainly can judge Amish on their consistency, or lack thereof.


70 posted on 10/26/2015 12:24:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: from occupied ga
groundhogs (and especially feral hogs)

Groundhogs aren't pigs. They are rodents, more closely related to squirrels than to rats, but much closer to either than they are to pigs or humans. (Guinea pigs aren't pigs, either, for that matter. They are distant relatives of rats, squirrels, and groundhogs}.

71 posted on 10/26/2015 12:31:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Ummm, no.


72 posted on 10/26/2015 12:36:04 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: PAR35

Go judge Gabriel and get back with us.


73 posted on 10/26/2015 12:39:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PAR35
They are the ones who want to live in the 17th or 18th century, except when it isn’t convenient. For some of them, land line telephones are works of the devil, but cell phones are ok. I’m just suggesting that they should be consistent in their legalism.

It stresses me to see such harsh accusations and recriminations of Amish people, especially regarding an article about basic Constitutional Second Amendment Rights.


This is from a BBC presentation on The Amish:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/amish_1.shtml

The Amish stress simplicity and humility. They avoid anything associated with self-exaltation, pride of position or enjoyment of power.

Amish believe that God is pleased when people work in harmony with nature, the soil, the weather, and care for animals and plants. Amish always live in rural communities.

Some modern 'conveniences', such as cars, electricity and telephones are avoided. They only avoid technology where it might damage the community, not because they are Luddites or think technology is inherently evil.

Amish are pacifists and conscientious objectors. They avoid all violence - including angry words or going to law.

They basically live the Protestant work ethic as their worship of God.

74 posted on 10/26/2015 1:00:12 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

I don’t have any problem with someone arming themselves for self defense - that’s a subsidiary purpose of the 2nd Amendment. But it does seem a might bit inconsistent with being “pacifists and conscientious objectors.”


75 posted on 10/26/2015 1:10:36 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Tenacious 1

Snipe are birds of the wetlands. Sporty shooting.


76 posted on 10/26/2015 1:26:43 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Too bad for the statists.

Looks like those yellow forms, NICS checks, and photo ID requirements are unconstitutional. I see a huge conflict (with the Constitution), and I'm increasingly disgusted with so-called 'conservatives' who don't.

77 posted on 10/26/2015 1:34:42 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Ace's Dad

Nice! (No, I never tried that particular trick ;’)


78 posted on 10/26/2015 3:44:31 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 100American

I agree.


79 posted on 10/26/2015 3:47:24 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I see an enormous problem. Having to be photographed smells like gun registration and I don’t like government controls on a right. I would call having to have a photograph is an infringement of the 2nd amendment.


80 posted on 10/26/2015 3:55:55 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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