Posted on 10/25/2015 6:55:01 PM PDT by markomalley
Until now, Donald Trump and Ben Carson have been content to co-exist as the two Republican “outsiders” dominating the presidential campaign scene.
Together, the bombastic billionaire real estate executive and the eerily soft-spoken former neurosurgeon have shared about half of the overall Republican support in the presidential sweepstakes while the other candidates have languished with single digit showings in the polls. But as Trump and Carson prepare for another crucial Republican presidential debate in Boulder, Colorado on Wednesday, the gloves are definitely coming off.
With two new polls showing Carson surging ahead of Trump in Iowa, Trump has begun lashing out with the same tactics he has used effectively against former Florida governor Jeb Bush earlier this year – saying that Carson lacks the energy and negotiating smarts to be president and that he is too soft on immigration. “Carson is lower energy than Bush,” Trump declared during a Jacksonville, Florida rally on Saturday. “I don’t understand what’s going on.”
Carson immediately retorted in Iowa that “My energy levels are perfectly fine,” noting that he often spent as many as 15 to 20 hours in the operating room during his career as a nationally renowned surgeon. In an obvious reference to Trump’s showboating, combative political style, Carson added that “jumping up and down and screaming” doesn’t qualify one to be president.
During an appearance on NBC News’ Meet the Press today, Carson said that Trump and other critics often mistake his soft-spoken manner as a sign of a lack of energy. “I have plenty of energy,” he said. “But, you know, I am soft-spoken. “I do have a tendency to be relaxed. I wasn't always like that. There was a time when I was, you know, very volatile. But, you know, I changed.”
Over the weekend, Trump also veered into more treacherous political territory – and may have offended the state’s politically active evangelical Christians -- by singling out Carson’s Seventh-day Adventist faith and suggesting that it somehow puts his chief rival on the religious fringes when contrasted with Trump’s more “middle of the road” Presbyterian faith.
“I’m Presbyterian,” Trump said on Saturday in Jacksonville. “Boy, that’s down the middle of the road, folks, in all fairness. I mean, Seventh-day Adventist I don’t know about. I just don’t know about it.”
Carson angrily demanded an apology. He also suggested during an interview on Fox News Sunday that Trump’s outbursts might be a sign of desperation, especially his attack on Carson’s religious faith after complaining two months ago that Carson had improperly questioned his own faith.
Back in September, Carson caused a stir when he credited his faith for his success in life and contrasted that with Trump, who had said that he never asked God for forgiveness and refused to cite his favorite Bible verse. Carson later apologized.
“He went a little ballistic on that, so it seems a little interesting that he would now be doing that,” Carson said. “You know, I really refuse to get in the mud pit. You know, Hillary [Clinton] was actually right when she said the Republicans are there trying to destroy each other. I really think that was a huge mistake in the last [presidential election] cycle, and I’m certainly not going to get into that no matter what anybody says.”
Evangelical voters make up a substantial part of the Iowa’s Republican base, and it’s a group that Trump has had difficulty wooing. Why he called out Carson on being a Seventh Day Adventist and further offending evangelicals more generally is hard to fathom.
By Sunday, Trump was back-pedaling on the controversy, even while refusing to apologize to Carson for having raised the topic in the first place. Questioned by George Stephanopoulos of ABC News’ This Week on why he even brought up the subject, Trump sputtered, “I just don’t know about that particular religion.”
“I would never say bad about any religion,” Trump said. “I said, ‘I don’t know about it.’ That’s not an insult.”
For a front-running candidate who lives and breathes polling results and who has been riding the crest of an anti-establishment movement in his party, Trump suddenly has something to worry about.
I believe I covered all your points in my answer.
Will your honor please direct the witness to post #26?
Trump Effect again.
[Will your honor please direct the witness to post #26?]
1 CORINTHIANS 2:11
No one can know a person’s thoughts except that person’s own spirit, and no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit .
“Bill Williams”? That would be Bill Miller, right?
Here we go again, different year, different cult, same arguments. Sigh.
BTW, how have you been brother?
NOT Trump's pressure, of course. Hmmm.
However, it makes no never mind, no matter how it came about, Trump's been hitting over and over on Ford for months...and guess who'll get the credit !
I'm lovin' this !!!
Trump lands on his feet, again...and the pundits tomorrow will be in deep mourning.
Leni
I don’t like the religion of Mohammed and offer no apologies for my dislike. As far back as the founding of the US Jefferson showed a dislike for the religious predatory Muslims. I do think that at times Trump is too much out of line with his words but not necessarily with his beliefs and intended criticisms.
SDA relies for its proper interpretation of what the scripture REALLY means, upon one individual, Ellen G. White. That is what cults do — wrap themselves around a latter-day prophet (e.g., Smith, Russell, Armstrong, and yes, White). That, and brand the rest of the Sunday-worshipping, evangelical world as “the Mark of the Beast”.
Yeah, that is cultish, to say the least.
It rolls rather easily into bigotry when
used to bash another candidate’s religion.
Here’s a report on the Ford plan to leave.
http://www.theyucatantimes.com/2015/07/ford-motor-company-moving-car-production-to-mexico/
Published On: Fri, Jul 10th, 2015
Oh, heck yes! Trump bellowing about this banishment by industry to the hinterlands and to other nations, since June, had NOTHING to do with it. — whacked media
Ok, maybe not. But, we will never quite know that for sure.
Tee hee.
” This event was caused by a vicious video, that we had absolutely NOTHING to do with. “ — Hillary Clinton
Where does it say there (or anywhere in the Bible) that you can’t give an opinion?
(don’t panic, just a rhetorical question. Obvious that you don’t like questions that make you examine your actual motives)
Good night and thanks for wasting my time.
Good For Trump!!!
This is what Trump has been saying how he makes deals, he says how it’s going to be, these are the facts, take them or leave them and then walks away, then the person or persons come back after they have realized what is going to happen, and take his offer....
How could you NOT want a person who is this skilled in business to put America back on top? Carson can’t do that...he isn’t skilled in this type of situation...
GO TRUMP GO!!!
Trump said the other day he really didn't know about this religion as a lot of us on here don't...so why not ask?
Why not find out about the person as much as you can? I don't see the harm in it...Carson later apologized I believe, did he not?
[Obvious that you don’t like questions that make you examine your actual motives]
I make it a point not to speculate on non-facts. Speculation often comes back to bite.
That’s merely your interpretation of things.
Founders of the SDA church adopted the Seventh-Day Sabbath. They also believed in the second advent, Christ coming back to this world for those who remain faithful.
Thus the name Seventy-Day Adventist.
They also discussed and agreed on core beliefs, SOME of which White did influence.
Please tell me of any other religion that DID NOT review Biblical beliefs and adopt them as they say fit?
We would have one big protestant church if that were true. We don’t.
Your snap judgement is wrong.
The Bible is the core basis for all SDA Belief. Ellen White’s writing were also incorporated into their beliefs system, but White did not talk down any part of the Bible.
Please point to one thing out of the Bible that White struck down. I’d be curious to see what you come up with.
The state committees should have everything to say about that.
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