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The Vatican Synod on the Family is over and the conservatives have won
The Spectator (UK) ^ | 24 October 2015 | Damian Thompson

Posted on 10/24/2015 6:45:39 PM PDT by Salman

This afternoon the Vatican Synod on the Family amended and approved the final document summing up three weeks of chaotic and sometimes poisonous debate – much of it focussing on whether divorced and remarried people should be allowed to receive communion.

The majority view of the Synod Fathers is that they don’t want the rules changed. They especially don’t want one rule to apply in, say, Germany and another in Tanzania. Pope Francis has just given a cautiously worded (but also, alas, rather waffly) address in which he acknowledges as much ...

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.new.spectator.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
Not arguing any point, but it seems to go against the impression I've been getting around here and it's from a conservative source.
1 posted on 10/24/2015 6:45:39 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

Sounds to me like our Conservative Cardinals told Francis he wasn’t getting his way and we are living according to the Catholic Religion by not bending the rules...

Good for them!!!


2 posted on 10/24/2015 6:55:18 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: Salman

The Spectator calls John McCain a conservative


3 posted on 10/24/2015 6:56:30 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Salman

It’s too soon to tell. Francis hasn’t released his final decisions yet and can completely ignore the Synod if he wants to.

It ain’t over ‘til it’s over.


4 posted on 10/24/2015 7:06:34 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. -- Pope St. Pius X /// Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

your right, and Francis is hard headed enough not to do it...


5 posted on 10/24/2015 7:14:17 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: Salman

Now if they impeach him and bring back Benedict, we will all be better off.


6 posted on 10/24/2015 7:39:10 PM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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To: ZULU

Is there a way to impeach a pope?


7 posted on 10/24/2015 7:47:48 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

Is there a way to impeach a pope?

Yes God Takes Him Away... Pray for His Soul he Follows the Lords Will!


8 posted on 10/24/2015 7:52:10 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution, A Moral People, and Return to On Nation UNDER God!)
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To: jafojeffsurf; All

Is there a way to impeach a pope?

RC Freepers please comment. I do believe popes have been deposed. Not for a long long time, but there are precedents.


9 posted on 10/24/2015 8:00:41 PM PDT by robowombat
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The 15th century was a mess, but if I remember correctly, those who were deposed also agreed to resign for good measure.


10 posted on 10/24/2015 8:18:03 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Salman

Beware the snake!


11 posted on 10/24/2015 8:34:15 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (When the MSM and Elites want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: Salman

No. Unless somebody wants to declare him an Anti-Pope and that the conclave was invalid.

Francis is already old and has health issues as is, even he has admitted that he doesn’t see his papacy lasting more than a few years.


12 posted on 10/24/2015 9:20:22 PM PDT by Shadow44
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Didn't think so, but I don't know all history.

Popes tend to be old when elected.

13 posted on 10/24/2015 9:25:07 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

I’m with you, Salman.

This isn’t over until it’s over.

The battle of voices inside the room was won, reportedly, but the creepy course of action to be taken is on track. The final write up was not accomplished by friendly sources, who incidentally are friendly with the Pope.

The pope will read this write up, and determine the course of action on its contents. Then, we will know.

Lifesite news is probably the better mainstream source. They are mostly uneasy.


14 posted on 10/24/2015 11:07:47 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Salman

“Conservatives” never win, because the Left never gives up, and never stops spinning, and spinning, and probing, and probing.

The Left has already won because they got the indissolubility of marriage, and sacrilegious Communion, ON THE TABLE. The POPE put it on the table. As a result, it will never be off the table, because the POPE put it there. Anyone arguing that Jesus settled the issue has ALREADY been accused BY THE POPE of being “locked up in the written word,” and being a “Pharisee.” The Left will keep making those accusations—FOREVER—as long as there are real Catholics defending the truth.


15 posted on 10/24/2015 11:19:43 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: Salman

The Spectator is conservative? I’m amazed England allows them to publish.


16 posted on 10/25/2015 2:49:43 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Salman

The very fact that these formerly undebatable issues were on the table at all is an ominous sign that this church has been compromised. They would not have been brought up unless they were possible.


17 posted on 10/25/2015 5:32:38 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Salman

I don’t know, I am not Catholic. But if there isn’t, they damn well better figure out a way - FAST!


18 posted on 10/25/2015 3:10:44 PM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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It doesn't bother the "progressives" that conservatives won; the "progressives" got a place at the debate table. They are dancing in circles over this victory.

Once something is conceivable, and you can get your oppenent to defend against the construct, then it is just a matter of time.

19 posted on 10/27/2015 9:47:53 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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The fact that Francis even allowed them to consider certain things is proof that conservatives didn't win.
20 posted on 10/27/2015 9:49:24 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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