The Trump Poll Numbers Lie: History says the GOP will still bank on Bush.

Politico ^ | 10/21/2015 | MARK K. UPDEGROVE

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Surveying the populous field of GOP candidates this week, it might seem far-fetched to imagine Jeb Bush as the party’s nominee at this time next year. Since throwing his hat in the ring for the presidency in mid-June, the stalwart Bush hasn’t found a footing in the Republican race. He stumbled awkwardly through Sunday’s interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper and is stuck in fifth place in polls continually dominated by the inexplicable Donald Trump—who on Monday became the longest-lasting “fad” candidate since at least 2004. But before we get too far afield on speculation that Trump will seize the party’s nomination, and before we write off as wishful thinking his super PAC strategist’s argument for why Jeb’s still the one to beat, it’s instructive to remember one key point: Republicans are the conservative party, which is more than just a political affiliation—it’s also a perennial mind-set that applies to whom they choose to top their tickets.

Just over a half-century ago, as the Republican Party convened in San Francisco’s Cow Palace to determine its 1964 presidential nominee, the GOP faithful divided viciously over two potential standard-bearers. The first was the Republican establishment candidate, New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, a moderate. The second was Barry Goldwater, the senator from Arizona, a conservative firebrand who had charged up an increasingly large and vocal conservative wing of the party with his clarion call, “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.” After an impassioned convention floor battle, Goldwater emerged as the party’s nominee and marched on to the campaign trail against incumbent President Lyndon B. Johnson. Goldwater’s campaign slogan: “In Your Heart You Know He’s Right.”

Maybe. But on Election Day, voters went “All the Way with LBJ,” who pulled a landslide 61 percent of the popular vote

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The Deutsche Bundesbank. Don't they have billions in bad loans to the Greek government?

You are now starting to understand the extent of the problem.

If I understand right because of all the cheap money ALOT of major corporations are up to their eyeballs in dept.

[GilGil]

Basically all the stock buy backs you are hearing about are due to cheap money. Deutschebank is drowning in debt.

[painter]

painter Basically all the stock buy backs you are hearing about are due to cheap money.

They did that to boost up the price or value of their stock?

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I will see their Barry Goldwater and raise them a Dewey, GHW Bush, Ford, Dole, McCain, and Romney.

You can't beat somebody with nobody. McCain, Romney and the others got the nomination because the ideal conservative candidate that people contrasted them with wasn't running and didn't exist.

The good news this time I guess is that there isn't a strong establishment candidate who can defeat the outsiders. Probably such a candidate doesn't exist. It certainly isn't Jeb.

So there's a good chance this time that the nominee won't be somebody from the party establishment (though by the end of the campaign the nominee may be attacked in just those terms). It's the same logic and set of circumstances, though, that made those less conservative candidates the nominee in previous years.

Please, Goldwater lost because he was running against JFK’s ghost and one of the dirtiest bastards in American political history.

Goldwater lost by a landslide because of JFK, but he would have lost under other circumstances. He alienated or scared enough people to keep him under 50%.

[GilGil]

Yes! They did that to boost stock values.

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The stock market is a house of cards and one little thing goes wrong and "poof" it all comes tumbling down!

Probably explains why the Chinese central bank cutting interest rates. To try to keep things "propped" up.