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Court decision paves the way for Australian-style gun ban
American Thinker ^ | Oct. 20 2015 | Michael Filozof

Posted on 10/20/2015 5:55:07 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

On Monday, the Court of Appeals for the Second U.S. Circuit issued a long awaited decision on the constitutionality of the most drastic gun control law in U.S. history, the New York SAFE Act of 2013. The Second Circuit ruled that nearly all of the law does not violate the Second Amendment.

The SAFE ("Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement") Act was presented to the New York State Senate and passed into law in 15 minutes. No debate was allowed, and senators did not have time to read the bill before voting it into law.

The SAFE Act is a complete ban on the sale or transfer of all military-style semi-automatic rifles manufactured within the past several decades. It is a total ban on the AR-15, AK-47, M-14/M-1a, HK G3, Steyr AUG, and many other civilian copies of military firearms. Prior to the passage of the law, Gov. Cuomo publicly stated that he was considering "confiscation" of existing rifles, but the final version of the law allowed existing owners to keep their rifles as long as they registered them with the State. Upon the death of the owner, the rifle will be confiscated; it cannot be transferred to an heir within New York State.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gunrights
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The Second Circuit's decision places the hands of the Second Amendment doomsday clock at two minutes to midnight. If you think "it can't happen here," you're wrong.

It already is happening here.

1 posted on 10/20/2015 5:55:07 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

We’ll see what the scouts says. Then we panic. Or not.


2 posted on 10/20/2015 5:58:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: EXCH54FE

I just cannot possibly fathom why bills are not allowed to be read before voting. It’s just plain wrong.

Why does the public even put up with it? Once this happens, regardless of what type of bill it is, left or right, the public should vote such crooks out of office.


3 posted on 10/20/2015 5:58:57 AM PDT by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Of course it not only CAN, but IS happening here. It’s called the degradation of the 2ND Amendment to our Constitution, which shall NOT be infringed!

Is it time yet?


4 posted on 10/20/2015 5:59:32 AM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: redfreedom

In answer to my own question, I’m guessing the sheep really don’t care what the sheep herders are doing as long as they get plenty to eat and the big bad wolf is kept at bay.


5 posted on 10/20/2015 6:00:58 AM PDT by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: redfreedom
EVERY SENATOR, REPRESENTATIVE AND WHATEVER ... ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DOG CATCHER ....

IS A NEIGHBOR OF SOMEBODY

SOMEBODY HAS A RESPONSABILITY ... A DUTY TO ....

6 posted on 10/20/2015 6:01:23 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: redfreedom
I just cannot possibly fathom why bills are not allowed to be read before voting. It’s just plain wrong.

It's also a violation of our constitutional guarantee of a republican form of government. There is no representation in this tyrannical model.

7 posted on 10/20/2015 6:02:13 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: cuban leaf

I’m assuming you meant SCOTUS.

I wouldn’t trust those black robbed scumbag treasonous bastards as far as I could throw them.


8 posted on 10/20/2015 6:02:56 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: EXCH54FE

What would happen if the banned weapons were willed to someone who doesn’t live in the state?


9 posted on 10/20/2015 6:05:07 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: EXCH54FE

I don’t give a damn what law they pass, they can’t have them.


10 posted on 10/20/2015 6:06:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: redfreedom

Why do the peoples “representatives” put up with it? Exactly like the obiecare BS. Sign it to see what’s in it? The iran deal? Lot’s of things that our “reps” don’t even know are there. Must be lack of testicular fortitude on somebody’s part. Sure, just sign the lease, there’s nothing in it that can’t be corrected if there’s a problem. WTH? Sack up “reps” and do the job you were (s)elected to do. The really sad thing is that they fold up like paper dolls when they’re pressured in to signing this crap. Disgusted? Understatement.


11 posted on 10/20/2015 6:07:26 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: EXCH54FE

We will see who is who very shortly.


12 posted on 10/20/2015 6:07:51 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: EXCH54FE

It really doesn’t matter to me what any court, or president, says.


13 posted on 10/20/2015 6:08:22 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: EXCH54FE

On to the Supreme Court.


14 posted on 10/20/2015 6:10:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: redfreedom
I just cannot possibly fathom why bills are not allowed to be read before voting. It’s just plain wrong.

Kinda like the 'Settled Science' crowd.
15 posted on 10/20/2015 6:10:30 AM PDT by RW_Whacko
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To: EXCH54FE
Verdict here.
Worth reading.

Money quote:

The dangers posed by some of the military‐style features prohibited by the statutes—such as grenade launchers and silencers—are manifest and incontrovertible. As for the other enumerated military‐style features ..., plaintiffs explicitly contend that these features improve a firearm’s “accuracy,” “comfort,” and “utility” ... a milder way of saying that these features make the weapons more deadly.
Never mind that “grenade launchers and silencers” are, for all practical purposes, never used in crimes.
16 posted on 10/20/2015 6:10:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
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To: pgyanke
I just cannot possibly fathom why bills are not allowed to be read before voting. It’s just plain wrong.

It's also a violation of our constitutional guarantee of a republican form of government. There is no representation in this tyrannical model.

It is a breach of the main, one and only time, base-for-everything-else, law passed directly by the people.

The Constitution was *read* and *understood* and *voted on* by the people directly, delegating *reading" and *understanding* and *voting* on our representatives henceforth.

17 posted on 10/20/2015 6:11:41 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is libertye)
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To: kevslisababy

NY regularly sends police to decedent’s homes to confiscate all registered weapons.
You die, they take it.

If you want someone else to have it before then, better give it before you expire.


18 posted on 10/20/2015 6:12:26 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
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To: redfreedom

AW registration compliance rates in NY are _extremely_ low. At best, 10% may have been registered.


19 posted on 10/20/2015 6:14:41 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
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To: ctdonath2

Also never mind that the same thing that makes guns deadly makes them useful for their intended purpose. When there are crowds of people trying to lynch someone, a sport-utility rifle is not just comfortable, it’s necessary. Also never mind that when trained police officers want to search for a bad guy in a house, they select just such rifles. So if a homeowner were to do the same thing, that’s apparently the thing to have - when you also have backups and teams of people. What about when you don’t?


20 posted on 10/20/2015 6:14:50 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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