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Ted Cruz says Donald Trump won't be Republican nominee
washington times ^ | 10/8/2015 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 10/08/2015 8:45:02 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Sen. Ted Cruz said Thursday that he doesn’t think that Donald Trump will capture the 2016 GOP presidential nomination and predicted that it is only a matter of time before most of the New York billionaire’s supporters will move into his camp. During an appearance on WABC-AM Radio, host Rita Cosby asked Mr. Cruz whether he would eventually move past Mr. Trump based on his conservative principles, and the Texas Republcian said “I think that’s right.” “In time, I don’t believe Donald is going to be the nominee, and I think in time the lion’s share of his supporters end up with us,” Mr. Cruz said. Mr. Trump has tangled with most of the candidates running for the Republican presidential nomination and has touted how some of his rivals have sunk in the polls after attacking him. But he has not traded barbs with Mr. Cruz, who has been Mr. Trump’s biggest ally in the crowded GOP field. In the WABC-AM interview, Mr. Cruz continued to praise Mr. Trump, saying he liked and respected “Donald.” Mr. Cruz said Mr. Trump has boosted his candidacy and his chance of becoming the party’s standard-bearer. “I think his involvement has been tremendously helpful to my campaign because it has framed the central question of the primary as: Who will stand up to Washington?” Mr. Cruz said. “And if that’s the central question, the natural next question, that any voter will ask is okay, well who actually has stood up to Washington? Who has a record in that regard?” The Cruz campaign also announced Thursday that he will report raising $12.2 million over the last three months — exceeding the hauls of fellow Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida, who plans to report $6 million, and Rand Paul of Kentucky, who raised $2.5 million.

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To: RitaOK

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>> “My own premise is this, that should the media/Establishment/KStreet/Coc/Wall Street actually succeed in taking Trump down, then it’s a certainty no one else will stand, who is even marginally conservative.” <<

Science fiction at best.

They have no desire to take him down; he is their dream guy. He’s the same Donald Trump that praised the recent SCOTUS sewage, and called for a total hand gun ban, and praised the Canadian and Scottish single payer “health plans.” (and stared admiringly at Slick and Hildabeast)
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Either the people are incensed enough to wake up and elect Cruz, or they elect any of the other trash and that’s the end of the USA. (the end is close anyway, regardless of who they choose )
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401 posted on 10/09/2015 1:23:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RitaOK

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(Don’t even own a thesaurus, whatever that may mean to you)
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402 posted on 10/09/2015 1:25:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Califreak

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Just addressing the abundant evidence pal!
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403 posted on 10/09/2015 1:26:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Who else can best him and still win? As long as he pro Life, against the atrocities of PP, then I am free to love his leadership style.

Trump is proving to be more than candidate, he’s a force. We need a force, not a nerd, not a girl, not another pol.

Nope, we’re not going to have any of that, not this time.

It’s just Trump or Bust. If he busts, trust me, you’re busted too. Say hell, oh, to one more GoPE nominee.

Your choice. Charge the hill.


404 posted on 10/09/2015 1:29:58 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: DoughtyOne

They aren’t humble, they’re arrogant with purported anti-arrogance.


405 posted on 10/09/2015 1:31:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Just razzing your special occasion word choices. Trump supporters have to be flattered you drug them out, for us.


406 posted on 10/09/2015 1:32:46 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: editor-surveyor
They have no desire to take him down; he is their dream guy. He’s the same Donald Trump that praised the recent SCOTUS sewage, and called for a total hand gun ban, and praised the Canadian and Scottish single payer “health plans.” (and stared admiringly at Slick and Hildabeast)

Donald Trump cuts across a lot of political lines. Sure, the Establishment might like some of his long-held liberal views, but they don't like his immigration talk and his general unpredictability, so they don't want to see him elected.

And there isn't one GOP Elite or Establishment. If you put together corporate executives (many of whom rely on cheap foreign or imported labor), middle of the road GOP campaign consultants, and Movement Conservative journalists (all of whom dislike Trump) it's not like there's one ideology or set of views that unites them. The fact that the reject Trump doesn't mean that they agree about things.

Also, while Trump cuts across existing ideological lines in a big way, so do the other candidates. The idea that somebody's purist candidate would never get support from Establishment or Elite circles (however you want to define them) is naive. There would be a split, but not a complete rejection.

407 posted on 10/09/2015 1:44:59 PM PDT by x
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To: x

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>> “so they don’t want to see him elected.” <<

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There is zero evidence to support that assertion, and a mountain of free prime face time on all of the networks to refute it.

If they didn’t want him elected, they would treat him just like they treat Cruz.
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408 posted on 10/09/2015 1:51:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DaveyB
Warning: Religious comments follow...

The Bible is replete with accounts of men and women who were moved by the Holy Spirit in Old Testament times. Would God give only some men the Holy Spirit to comfort them and not others?


Yes! God is not fair, but just. He also made some men taller than others. He made a covenant with Abraham but not with Lot, with Jacob but not Ishmael.

Fair is a good term.  Thus it is a trait of God.
Just is a good term.  Thus it is a trait of God.

God made covenants with those who tried to follow his word, and did not with those who drifted from it based on their thoughts or desires.  Those are fair and just decisions.  God could only promise one man his progeny would bring forth the Christ.  That was not unfair.  Abraham was a falible man, but he loved God.  He made some big mistakes, but God stood by his falible man.  I believe Abraham stood by God as well.  There is hope for us isn't there.

On the subject of height, it is not a quotient of potential salvation.

It would have been neither fair or just for God to make all men exactly the same.  To do so would have created 100% followers of His word.  There had to be variables.  Short people are not limitied in their ability to think clearly.  Zacchaeus is a case in point.

God was required in the interest of universal perceptions of right and wrong to supply every man with the tools to recognize right and wrong.  If any man were to be condemned absent the influences of the Holy Spirit, the legitimacy of God's just nature would come under question.  That could not be allowed to happen.

In the end, sin has to be seen for what it is.  Right and wrong decisions have to be seen for what they were.  Temptation and the acceptance or refusal of sin must be understandable, and the process precisely the same for every human.

Romans 9:21-23 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory...

Emphasis mine.

I'm not sure your point there, but every single soul will be weighed in the balance.  Each soul will have had to have the same tools to make good decisions with.

God cannot condemn a man with no Holy Spirit present.  What chance to make the right decision would that person have had?  What being watching such a process could term it even and reasoned as to salvation?

Good comes from God, and the Holy Spirit is the only conduit.

Do you believe that every man prior to the cross was condemned to die an eternal death?

No, many believed in the types and shadows of the promise to come. In these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, we have the advantage over men in history. They were without excuse, we all the more for to whom much is given much is required.

I think I'm running up against some religious teachings here that are >IMO< flawed.

There is no agent of conviction absent the Holy Spirit.  Nothing moves on man without concience, and the Holy Spirit is the only thing that enables concience.


Jesus does not talk to us in a manner God didn't.  Of course we have His written word, but much of that came from before the cross didn't it.  God talked to early man in the Garden and at various times.  He gave the Ten Commandments.

I suspect you do not puch much story in the Old Testament.  I believe that is a mistake.

Jesus prayed to His Father and we are instructed to talk to Jesus.

That doesn't not mean that the Holy Spirit was not available to those before the Cross.  It doesn't not mean that a member of the Holy Trinity was not available to people before Jesus.  If Jesus prayed to the heavenly Father, then so could everyone else have.

To be a true test for the ages, Jesus could not be seen to go through a process not available to the common man.


Jesus was born as a man.  Lived his life as a man.  Suffered the same trials and tribulations as a man.  And he conquered evil.  That simply does not happen without the Holy Spirit, and a member of the Holy Trinity to pray to.

For Jesus to live a perfect life, and that to mean anything, he could not have special privileges.  He had to do this as a son of man, despite the fact he was the Son of God.  He was humanity's one chance for salvation.

God could have merely pardoned man.

He could have struck down Lucifer and his fallen angeles when they left heaven.

He could have strick Satan down at the Garden.

Sin had to play out.  Creatures across the universe would never have believed what Sin would ultimately lead to.

Lucifer and his angels were too magnificent to contemplate them presiding over something as wicked as what Sin ultimately becomes.  It had to play out.

No, the redemption of man was a complex feat.  Every sentient creature of the universe had to be able to understand a number of concepts totally outside their grasp.

God wanted to be obeyed out of love, not fear.

The Conflict of the Ages had to be transparent for all to see.  Absolute fairness was afforded to all God's followers, and even to all those who turned their back on Him in heaven and earth.

Every good thing comes from God.  Every bad thing comes from Satan.  This is the ultimate choice, and Sin is being revaled more and more to the universe each day.

The Holy Spirit flowing through us compells us to tell this story clearly.

There was a day when parts of the world knew nothing of Jesus.  That is why he sent the disciples out to spread the word.  The world not being totally accessable back then, man could only do so much, and keeping the word alive was important.  That's why it's spread was vital.

In the last days, total truth will be known universally.  The world will have shrunk so every eye shall see and every ear shall hear.  When they have and each man has made his choice, the end of this old evil world will replaced with something better.


Shalom!


And to you...
The Bible is replete with accounts of men and women who were moved by the Holy Spirit in Old Testament times. Would God give only some men the Holy Spirit to comfort them and not others?

Yes! God is not fair, but just. He also made some men taller than others. He made a covenant with Abraham but not with Lot, with Jacob but not Ishmael.

Romans 9:21-23 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory...
Emphasis mine.

Do you believe that every man prior to the cross was condemned to die an eternal death?

No, many believed in the types and shadows of the promise to come. In these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, we have the advantage over men in history. They were without excuse, we all the more for to whom much is given much is required.

Shalom! And to you...

General comments follow.  They are not to focused on you.

Seeing the wretch you are,
God's Spirit is within you.
Don't give up.  He hasn't.


When despare and certain detruction are all around, we truly see ourselves for the wretches we are,
the Holy Spirit is within us and has caused us to focused clearly so it can comfort and or help.  
Rejoice.  He is there.  Our salvation is just an acceptance away.
Salvation through faith in Jesus Christ...
From that moment on, we seek to follow God's word, and sin no more.
Sinning is a rejection of God's love.  You are biting of the apple.
God knows the power of sin, but He wants to know you're trying.
Jesus gave his life for you.  If you were the only sinner, it would have been for you.
We are all sinners and have fallen far short of the Glory of God.

409 posted on 10/09/2015 1:59:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: editor-surveyor
If they didn’t want him elected, they would treat him just like they treat Cruz.

Trump makes news. If one news outlet doesn't cover him others will and the one that doesn't will lose out.

Ted Cruz doesn't make news -- or at least his campaign doesn't -- so there's no pressure (or much reason to cover) him.

I'm not sure what you mean by how they "treat" Cruz or Trump, though. The election is over a year away. It's far from certain who the nominees will be, and (apart from the random bloggers that get posted here) the mainstream media hasn't even begun to fight.

410 posted on 10/09/2015 2:05:32 PM PDT by x
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To: DaveyB

Interesting things to ponder to be sure.

I’ll admit to having a problem with my spouse not being my spouse in heaven. It she was special enough to share my experiences here with, I would want to spend eternity with her at my side.

This is simply one more question we’ll have answered in time.

I don’t fret over it.


411 posted on 10/09/2015 2:05:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think you’ve uncovered the truth on the pretenders. Carter was one of these IMO.

God forgive me, but I didn’t see him as a good Christian or a reasoned man. He was a vicious sort and seemed to relish being in the company of brutal dictators.

He could be a ruthless vindictive man.

I appreciate the comments. Take care.


412 posted on 10/09/2015 2:11:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Jane Long

“LOL...Mr 6% runs a jab at Trump, and he’s the “bully”? LOLOL ;-)”

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I know right! :-D LOL!


413 posted on 10/09/2015 2:36:41 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: x

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BS, top to bottom.


414 posted on 10/09/2015 2:37:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Cruz may be trying to appeal to Jindal supporters. Cruz used to be, a class act, but it's all over now ... over now.
415 posted on 10/09/2015 2:43:50 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s like “How dare you believe that anything is right.”

Just pointing out that personal pride is far from the only way that one could believe that a certain proposition is right or wrong.


416 posted on 10/09/2015 2:46:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Okay. Thank you.


417 posted on 10/09/2015 2:49:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Romans 9:21-23 ... I'm not sure your point there, but every single soul will be weighed in the balance. Each soul will have had to have the same tools to make good decisions with.

Actually each soul does not have the same shot in human terms. God made some for salvation and others for damnation. He receives glory for His love and mercy of the elect and glory for His holiness and justice to those who are damned. Everyone is guilty and deserves damnation, but God elected some, though not all, to be redeemed. For the elect He works in them to will and to do for His good pleasure (Philippians 2:13). So while everyone is culpable for their sin, God works in His elect to choose Him, not out of their goodness, but because God chose them before the foundations of the world. There is a mystery how free will is preserved in the predestination of the elect, but the Bible is clear that God directs the hearts of His own and yet all are without excuse.

Ephesians 1:4-5 ... just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

418 posted on 10/09/2015 2:55:51 PM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

If such is an open and verified take of a Cruz position about Trump, he, Cruz, has just slipped another notch on my preference pole. I already believe that Trump’s posture as a US icon is by far better than that of Cruz and his wife publicly as to business and privately.


419 posted on 10/09/2015 3:08:59 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: M1911A1

I don’t think being an outsider has to mean being a populist and constantly critiquing big business. Some Republican grass-roots are swinging to much to the Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren side for my tastes. I believe in the Reagan trickle-down approach that what’s good for business is good for the country. As long as no business gets unfair breaks over any other business. Obviously I support across-the-board tax breaks for business but not subsidies.

For me the most important plank of the party is social conservatism. It’s also the plank most often abandoned and thrown overboard by the GOP establishment.

Cruz has criticized and stood up to the donors, even in his recent speech on the Senate floor last month. As Cruz said in his speech, the big donors typically make 3 demands, support gay marriage, support abortion, and support amnesty. And that is why the GOP establishment joins with the Democrats on those issues more with each passing year. To me it’s been clear for a long time that the degrading of the social conservatism planks of the party are the biggest threat coming from the donor class. I trust Cruz more than any other candidate to keep all of those issues a priority.


420 posted on 10/09/2015 3:09:34 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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