And the rules? Winner lives, loser dies.
I suspected this all along, I really did. There’s just no way women are as physically strong as men, period.
People who believe otherwise tend also to be people who do not classify the sexes by their genitals - and are proud of not doing so.
Are they going to rig combat with ISIS, the Chinese and Russians too?
Shocker. /s
Perfumed prince Martin Dempsey stated,
“If we do decide that a particular standard is so high that a woman couldn’t make it, the burden is now on the service to come back and explain to the secretary, why is it that high? Does it really have to be that high?”
And the rules? Winner lives, loser dies.
Because his school records are totally relevant to what he's saying today about relaxing standards on Rangers. /sarc
Not surprising. DACOWITS (DA Commitee On Women In Service) Troops later said it meant DA Commitee On Witches then ultiatelay for DYKE’s And Witches, sometimes that last word had a different term)
Yes ... so were the records.
Only an industrial strength moron would believe that a woman can succeed in a program based on physical ability that most men can't do.
I wish David Hackworth was still around for his take on this. His own Ranger tab became a matter of controversy. When it came out that Army had in fact awarded it to him, but then clarified the criterion, disqualifying him, Hackworth acknowledged and surrendered it...
The non-motorized bride is Ms.Fulton.
I was teaching at West Point when Fulton was a cadet. I did not know her, but every single female cadet in those days received special treatment and she was no exception. The political decisions to integrate women into the military and to ensure that the voluntary military could succeed fundamentally compromised the honesty and integrity of our military leaders. All of our services at the leadership level are just like the many other mediocre militaries around the world like the French, the South Vietnamese, the Iraqis. That is the legacy of our current senior military leaders. I hope that they are proud about that.
Women don’t have the upper body strength to cut it in combat. A retired Army officer told me 20 yrs. ago that
there were lots of women in his outfit. When they got the
“bugout” order; they simply could not bug out because the
women couldn’t lift the many heavy items on to the trucks
in order to bug out. So - they didn’t bug out. Period.
Oh boy...
Some 2nd info:
Not only did the ladies not have to carry the 240B at anytime...
The only latrine at the Benning phase was cut in half.
200 dudes now use 1/2 of what they used to have. 19 ladies had the other half. Latrine time is precious. Plus the men have to shave.
The cathole in the ORP now had a f*cken curtain around it. Very tactical.
Firemen carries - only ladies carrying ladies. Luckily a wounded 230 lb male will never need to be carried out of combat.
Obama’s agenda corrupting everything and everyone it touches.
I applaud the efforts of Congressman Steve Russell (no relation to me) to get to the bottom of the allegations. I find this article to be a mix of the details of the inquiry by Rep Russell and a rehash of a lot of rumors on the various forums.
For a clearer understanding of the back ground issues on the integration of women in the Army and the Ranger Program, you can read Female Rangers – How General Odierno Saved the Ranger Program and Army’s Warrior Culture, which was published here on Free Republic and my website www.williamrussell.net.
The Army Chief of Staff, General Odierno took a lot of heat inside the Army and Ranger communities. Many argued that he should have resigned in protest to instead of allowing the experiment to take place. Sure, Gen Odierno could have resigned rather than control the experiment. If he had, it would have made a point which would have lasted about 3 seconds in the national press and he would have handed full control of the Ranger Program to politicians whose only goals are political points, and destroying military’s warrior culture.
But for argument’s sake, let’s assume the rumors about MG Miller are true for just a moment. (I’ll just re-use what I posted on the LinkedIn Ranger Forum) It only proves that women could not pass the course without massive special assistance and that they are wholly unqualified. However, if 100% failed, no matter how much the Army bent over backwards to try to assure their success, it would have only proved [to the lib politicians] that the Army is sexist and that politicians must adjust and oversee the Ranger standards to allow a certain quota of women to pass the course and enter the Ranger Regiment.
The Army leadership can now claim that women can make the standard and the standards do not need to be lowered or quotas introduced. This is one of the very few examples in life where I fathom that breaking the standard actually served to preserve the standard.
I believe we will not see a whole lot of women signing up for Ranger training. Finding women who can hang with the training is like finding women who could play in the NBA. The Army could only fill 100 of the 160 slots they set aside to start the pre-Ranger program. The first time pass rate for men starting Ranger School is @ 20% (I believe closer to 40% for those who attend pre-Ranger which includes almost all enlisted men and cadets who want to attend). The first time pass rate for the women in the program was 0%. The pass rate for men jumps to 40% when recycles are thrown in (the vast majority of these are one-time recycles). The pass rate for the women was 0%. I don’t know the numbers on guys who have taken more than one recycle (my hat is off to anyone who recycles to complete the course). The women’s stats made it up to 6% after two recycles of those who started the Ranger course and remained at 2% for those who qualified for pre-Ranger.
While I congratulate the women for sticking it out, I think they are as unusual in this world as Britney Granier is in the WNBA..... While there was much speculation about her trying out for the Dallas Mavericks, there is a reason why that speculation quietly faded away and Britney Granier is not playing the NBA. As the premier player of the WNBA, she is an exceptionally gifted athlete. She could possibly make the roster of an NBA team, but in the real world of professional sports and big-money championships, she would at best be an average to below average player in the NBA.
The profession of arms, especially the combat arms specialties, are every bit as physically demanding as any professional sport. It’s just that the stakes are so much higher.
I remember seeing the news clips at the time, these women were having a tough time climbing over obstacles let alone other feats, funny
Most men can’t get through Ranger School.