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The Myth That White Supremacy is Bigger Threat to U.S. Than Jihadis
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 10/6/15 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 10/06/2015 6:44:40 PM PDT by markomalley

This patently false claim is part of the ongoing Big Lie campaign to try to downplay and minimize the jihad threat. It first surfaced in June, and in wake of he Oregon murders, the media elites are dragging it back out again. But it is no more coherent or reasonable than it was in the summer.

The study is based on the number of those killed by each group since 9/11. It skews the results by leaving out 9/11: what possible justification can there be for leaving 9/11 out of what is supposed to be a calculation of the magnitude of various threats to the U.S. Adherents to the belief system that led to 9/11 are still very much around. This article says that 48 people have been killed by right-wing extremists, versus 26 by Islamic jihadists, but the results would look much different if one adds one more day to the period surveyed, September 11, 2001. Then you have 3,003 people killed by Islamic jihadists, versus 48 by supposed right-wing extremists. Which is the bigger threat again?

The study also ignores the many, many foiled jihad plots. If even a fraction of them had succeeded, no one would dare make this equivalence, for even without adding in 9/11, the number of casualties of the jihad would be much higher.

Also, this is really a comparison between the threat posed by Islamic jihadists and that presented by not actual right-wing extremists, but everyone else. For there is no ideological kinship between Dylann Roof, the murderer in Charleston, South Carolina, who really was a racist lunatic, and Oregon shooter Chris Harper Mercer (linked below at “yesterday’s tragic shooting”), who had none of the Confederate paraphernalia or race hatred that Roof had. The only thing they had in common was that they both targeted Christians; but that is not the group that the mainstream media wants you to think “right-wing extremists” and white supremacists are targeting.

In reality, people like Roof and Chris Harper Mercer  kill because of the crazy voices inside their paranoid heads. They are not part of any movement with an articulated agenda or goal. Islamic jihadists, on the other hand, have a shared belief system with clearly defined goals. They are members of or ideologically aligned with groups that have declared their intention to destroy the U.S. and the free world. Islamic jihad groups are determined to kill as many Americans as possible and conquer free societies. There is no comparable “right-wing extremist” movement determined to subvert, destroy and replace the U.S. government.

Chris Harper Mercer

“Statistics Show White Supremacy is a Bigger Threat to the U.S. Than Radical Muslims,” by Keisha Hatchett, Complex, Yahoo News, October 2, 2015:

Despite what Donald Trump and many other politicians have told you, the major threat to America isn’t Muslim extremism. In fact, statistics show that the real danger lies with domestic extremists who aren’t of the Muslim faith.

The New York Times reported back in June that since Sept. 11, 2001, almost twice as many people have died at the hands of white supremacists and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims. Using data compiled by New America, a Washington Research center, a study found that 48 people have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim—including the mass killings in Charleston, S.C.—compared to the 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists.  However, this does not factor in yesterday’s tragic shooting or less publicized incidents like the Las Vegas couple who murdered two police officers and left a Swastika on one of the bodies.

These stats reveal a vast difference between public perception and the number of actual cases in which Muslim extremists have claimed American lives. So why aren’t more people outraged about domestic terrorists? Because then we’d have to admit that white supremacy is still a problem.

While the public hasn’t quite caught on yet, scholars say that the issue needs to be addressed. “There’s an acceptance now of the idea that the threat from jihadi terrorism in the United States has been overblown,” Dr. John G. Horgan, who studies terrorism at the University of Massachusetts said. “And there’s a belief that the threat of right-wing, antigovernment violence has been underestimated.”

That’s an understatement.

In reality, it has been vastly overestimated. There are a few right-wing anti-government people out there, sure. Few, if any, have targeted or ever will target random civilians. Most of these random shooters are profoundly disturbed people who aren’t acting upon any coherent ideology at all. But this threat must be overestimated, as part of the ongoing campaign to force Americans to deny the evidence of their lying eyes and proclaim that Islam is a religion of peace after all.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: dissentispatriotic; dnctalkingpoints; domesticterrorism; endwhiteshaming; homelandsecurity; hysteria; islamonazism; jihadinamerica; johnhorgan; militantleft; mythmaking; obamalegacy; obamunism; politicalwitchhunt; scientificamerican; waronwhites; whitesupremacists; yellowjournalism

1 posted on 10/06/2015 6:44:40 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Bfl


2 posted on 10/06/2015 6:51:14 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: markomalley

The NYT takes murders post 9-11 but if you include 9-11 (in which muslims killed nearly 3000 people) the ratio of murders by muslims versus other extremists is over 64 to 1

Also the number of muslims in America is very very small, less than 2% of the population, which shows they are vastly overrepresented in extremist murders.


3 posted on 10/06/2015 6:51:15 PM PDT by Cubs Fan ( liberalism=totalitarianism- http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/the-new-totalitarians-are-here/)
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To: markomalley

So the liberals’ points are that if you remove 3000 Islamic casualties, the “right wing” killers have actually killed about 20 more people than they have.

Wow...that makes a lot of sense.


4 posted on 10/06/2015 6:52:54 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: markomalley

It’s not a ‘myth’ per se, it’s a cornerstone tenet of the multi-culti PC morons who are in the process of willfully destroying the United States.


5 posted on 10/06/2015 6:57:45 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: markomalley

Self loathing red diaper babies who live very well on the carcass of the nation built by white Christians and now being torn apart by them and their black America hating president.


6 posted on 10/06/2015 7:08:48 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: markomalley

This is a very dangerous report for this is the massaging of data to justify killing, disarming and attacking native Americans to meet a political agenda


7 posted on 10/06/2015 7:11:42 PM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: markomalley

Islam is an evil death cult!

Islam is THE threat to Western Civilization!

Islam has been at war with Western civilization since 622 AD!

When will those of us who revere Western Civilization and believe that it MUST endure realize that Islam is at war with us?

And, do something about it?

If we don’t declare war on Islam, and fight to win, we WILL BE DESTROYED!


8 posted on 10/06/2015 7:15:23 PM PDT by Taxman (H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.)
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To: Cubs Fan

Not to skew the numbers any further, they don’t need it, but it looks like this kid in Oregon was an Islamic Jihadist. This factoid is being Downplayed by the media for obvious reasons.


9 posted on 10/06/2015 7:17:02 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: markomalley; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Are they trying to claim that Mercer is a Black White Supremacist? Sounds like a comedy skit.


10 posted on 10/06/2015 7:23:37 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: markomalley

Even if all of these guys were acting upon a coherent racist ideology, and we ignored 911, Muslims would still have them licked.


11 posted on 10/06/2015 7:27:07 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: markomalley
To Read Later

12 posted on 10/06/2015 7:28:15 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: markomalley

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm

I got the number at 76 Muslim terrorists. Whoops, they don’t have the DC snipers. That’s 86.


13 posted on 10/06/2015 7:33:14 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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It first surfaced in June, and in wake of the Oregon murders

Did she mean South Carolina murders?

14 posted on 10/06/2015 7:37:26 PM PDT by The people have spoken
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To: markomalley
Libs have been hyping those evil, white supremacist groups for the last fifty years. Anybody not toeing the lib line concerning the cause of violence is labeled a racist and probably a white supremacist.

You are labeled a racist and a white supremacist for noticing that certain non-white demographics commit far more violence than whites.

15 posted on 10/06/2015 7:50:56 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: The people have spoken

No—she meant the Oregon murders. “In wake of the Oregon murders” goes with the remaining part of the sentence.


16 posted on 10/06/2015 9:32:57 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: markomalley

Who are these ‘right-wingers’ who’ve been killing?

I am aware of militant leftists who’ve been on murderous rampages (gay cameraman at the tv channel, lib professor rampaged against other staff, anti-Israel leftists who’ve attacked Jews and those they’ve believed to be Jews...).

What is the score of radical leftists killings since 9-11-2001?


17 posted on 10/07/2015 5:39:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Will Bernie Sanders run as an Independent if he does not get the nomination of the Democrat Party?)
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To: MNDude
So the liberals’ points are that if you remove 3000 Islamic casualties, the “right wing” killers have actually killed about 20 more people than they have. Wow...that makes a lot of sense

Commie Core Math

18 posted on 10/07/2015 5:41:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Will Bernie Sanders run as an Independent if he does not get the nomination of the Democrat Party?)
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