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Marine dead with gunshot wound to head at Camp Pendleton shooting range
LA Times.com ^ | 10/5/15 | Tony Perry

Posted on 10/05/2015 5:45:18 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

A young Marine was found dead from a gunshot wound to his head at a marksmanship range at Camp Pendleton early Monday, officials said.

The Marine, from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, was part of a training exercise in which live ammunition was used, said officials at the Marine Corps base.

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KEYWORDS: camppendleton; marine
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1 posted on 10/05/2015 5:45:18 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Dear God.


2 posted on 10/05/2015 5:46:22 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

nowadays you gotta wonder if the shooter has something against another person, or if it was gross incompetence aiming too low.


3 posted on 10/05/2015 5:48:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
nowadays you gotta wonder if the shooter has something against another person, or if it was gross incompetence aiming too low.

First prayers for the Marine, secondly I don't get your comment, how do you shoot someone in the head by aiming to low? I've never seen a firing line where one person is firing behind the other or where the target is up in the air.

4 posted on 10/05/2015 5:52:44 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Blue Jays

BAN ALL GUNS NOW!
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Sounds like a horrible and unfortunate tragedy. :-(
5 posted on 10/05/2015 5:54:25 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Suicides have occurred on the range before. One led to a change in ammunition handling and distribution.


6 posted on 10/05/2015 5:55:33 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Mastador1

We did a live fire move and cover n army basic in 81.


7 posted on 10/05/2015 5:59:22 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Bump for more info as this develops. Thanks.


8 posted on 10/05/2015 5:59:55 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

RIP


9 posted on 10/05/2015 6:01:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Prayers for his loved ones


10 posted on 10/05/2015 6:01:39 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act)
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To: Mastador1

Depends on whether it was a qualification range, or a fire-and-maneuver live-fire range.

My infantry companies did live-fire (fire and maneuver) many times


11 posted on 10/05/2015 6:01:49 PM PDT by AbnSarge
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Gee, hasn't anyone seen Starship Troopers ?


12 posted on 10/05/2015 6:04:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Mastador1

He was probably thinking of one of those live fire exercises where you low crawl under barbed wire while they shoot over your head.


13 posted on 10/05/2015 6:04:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Sorry, but it is stupid to use live ammo. I understand why, but at what cost? One life is one too many. They need to find another way to do this.


14 posted on 10/05/2015 6:18:20 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR

You train the way you fight.


15 posted on 10/05/2015 6:22:45 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: UCANSEE2

Rico are you qualified to repair a helmut.


16 posted on 10/05/2015 6:31:08 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: AbnSarge; smokingfrog; Secret Agent Man; ebshumidors

Thank you for setting me straight, I should of course have thought of that.


17 posted on 10/05/2015 6:31:57 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: ebshumidors

We had live fire in training in 65, we were crawling through a obstacle course with a machine gun firing over us (later I saw it was set up to fire way over a standing person). It gave us an idea what it sounded line to be down range.

Also, on the range at that time they had people in trenches that after firing at targets they would pull the targets down and mark where they were hit. Not sure if they still do this.

So, accidents can happen.

We also practiced with live grenades.

War is dangerous, training for war can be just as dangerous.


18 posted on 10/05/2015 6:41:35 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (Nothing to add at the moment)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
"Also, on the range at that time they had people in trenches that after firing at targets they would pull the targets down and mark where they were hit. Not sure if they still do this."

GOTTA be Army!

Uhmmm. The trenches are called "butts", having men stand in those "butts" and muscle the targets, on sliding racks, is called "pulling targets", and yes, they still do this way.

Lord knows, I'm REALLY trying to restrain some other comments. I'm afraid I'll do myself an injury.

I've been pulling and pasting, putting a spotter in each and every hole since I was 12 years old. I was amazed, when I first went to Edson Range, that not everyone else in my boot camp platoon had been pulling targets since puberty.

I can't remember the age when I was told, "You don't look over the top of the berm." This can't be something that stupid.

19 posted on 10/05/2015 7:00:16 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: DennisR

Paintballs. Maybe there can be some agreement from the Other Guys about paint balls... I mean, they REALLY sting.


20 posted on 10/05/2015 7:10:06 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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