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Gov. Brown signs controversial assisted-suicide bill
LA Times ^ | October 5, 2015 | Patrick McGreevy

Posted on 10/05/2015 2:45:03 PM PDT by Zakeet

Caught between conflicting moral arguments, Gov. Jerry Brown, a former Jesuit seminary student, on Monday signed a measure allowing physicians to prescribe lethal doses of drugs to terminally ill patients who want to hasten their deaths.

Approving the bill, whose opponents included the Catholic Church, appeared to be a gut-wrenching decision for the 77-year-old governor, who as a young man studied to enter the priesthood.

“In the end, I was left to reflect on what I would want in the face of my own death,” Brown added. “I do not know what I would do if I were dying in prolonged and excruciating pain. I am certain, however, that it would be a comfort to be able to consider the options afforded by this bill. And I wouldn’t deny that right to others."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; california; mercykilling; moonbeambrown; suicide
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Poor Old Moonbeam ... is caught between a lot of conflicting moral arguments ... like killing old people ... murdering unborn babies ... marrying homosexuals ... enforcing laws that he has solemnly sworn to uphold but doesn't like such as deporting illegals ... and that is why his guts wrench a lot!

1 posted on 10/05/2015 2:45:03 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Can I choose whom I want to assist?????


2 posted on 10/05/2015 2:45:37 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Scrambler Bob
I'm conflicted ...

I have COPD and/or emphasema or whatever fancy name that want to call it

It's my fault, yes, I did it, yada yada yada

I have, at THIS time ... a hint of what it's like to suffocate to death

I'm conflicted

And I never was before now


Just an honest anecdotal statement of fact

3 posted on 10/05/2015 2:49:05 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Zakeet

Brown needs to be the first patient to use this service.


4 posted on 10/05/2015 2:50:19 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: Zakeet

Moonbeam is a joke, but this is a good law. My death belongs to me and my walk with God. My death does not belong to the church, the state, the courts or FReepers.

I claim the right to die on my terms.


5 posted on 10/05/2015 2:50:35 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: knarf

Can someone bent on suicide have at least the decency to do it without dragooning society into agreement with the act, please.


6 posted on 10/05/2015 2:51:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown, Catholic in name only.

Isn’t he under interdiction or something? Shouldn’t he be?

Doesn’t he know he could burn in Hell for this?

Or at the very least, spend a couple of millennia in purgatory.


7 posted on 10/05/2015 2:51:39 PM PDT by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: Drango

Including dragooning society into agreement?

It isn’t that hard of an act to perform, physically.


8 posted on 10/05/2015 2:52:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Zakeet

I’m sorry but the Democrats are spouting astronimical stats on suicide by gun but yet they’re going to allow someone to get help being killed. SMH
All I want to know is how much money is in it?


9 posted on 10/05/2015 2:57:48 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Zakeet

Good. Maybe we can get all the left wing liberals in California to kill themselves. Promise them some money and a free Obama phone to do it.


10 posted on 10/05/2015 2:59:13 PM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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To: Zakeet

And I was so absolutely sure my letter to the governor was going to convince him to veto this bill.


11 posted on 10/05/2015 3:01:32 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: lucky american

Absolutely no chance this will be abused or misused, a very slippery slope.


12 posted on 10/05/2015 3:02:37 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Zakeet

Brown never made, or was swayed by a moral argument in his life. What would a democrat do? is his only mantra.


13 posted on 10/05/2015 3:06:21 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Zakeet

Will the physician’s cocktail stand up to liberal scrutiny for use on death row? Will Moonbeam test it out for us and see if the prescribed drugs work? With his history and probable tolerance it would be a physician’s challenge. The hard part with most Californians will be determining the definition of brain death.


14 posted on 10/05/2015 3:16:03 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: knarf

First, would the yet to be identified prescribed drugs meet the requirements for a lethal execution?
Second, who is going to test the drugs?
Third, are they better/quicker than suffocation?
Fourth, is this really going out on your own terms?
and
Finally, who pays if this gets botched and is there someone who will finish you off if you fail?

There’s a little anecdote to chew on.


15 posted on 10/05/2015 3:23:52 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: Zakeet
My brother-in-law and sister-in-law from California, both rabid catholics, vote straight line democrat every election. They just don't get it.
16 posted on 10/05/2015 3:33:19 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Zakeet
...appeared to be a gut-wrenching decision for the 77-year-old governor...

"Gut-wrenching" says the Los Angeles Times.

17 posted on 10/05/2015 3:39:51 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Zakeet
You guys are missing the point. This is about forcing other states to adopt this law, through judicial activism.

People who want to die in other states will sue their state for having a ban on assisted-suicides, and then federal judges are going to strike down those bans, then SCOTUS will legalize it throughout the country.

18 posted on 10/05/2015 3:43:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (I am going to get those guns out of peopleÂ’s hands. - Hillary Clinton 10/05/2015)
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To: AlaskaErik
My 90 year old aunt,who went to Mass *every* day of her life until old age made that impossible,did so as well.During one of our heated discussions she told me she did so "because they give me my Social Security".

At that moment I knew she was a lost cause.

19 posted on 10/05/2015 3:45:41 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Ive read nitrogen is the way to go.


20 posted on 10/05/2015 3:50:20 PM PDT by refermech
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