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He Watched Wolves Attack And Kill His Livestock, Could Do Nothing Because Of A Fed Court Ruling
Off the Grid News ^ | June 5, 2015 | Daniel Jennings

Posted on 10/05/2015 11:58:54 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: pgkdan

What about a bean bag round... Or some other non-lethal route?


61 posted on 10/05/2015 12:40:03 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Absolutely Right!! Fools make stupid rules. Stupid people obey them.


62 posted on 10/05/2015 12:45:56 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That was the Montana mote for a while, then we got them put on the game animal list. 19 dollars for residents and 50 dollars for non-residents.


63 posted on 10/05/2015 12:48:29 PM PDT by Duckdog (Just because your paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: driftdiver

There are several breeds of working, shepherding dogs that can and will kill wolves.
Caucasian Mountain Dog.
Great Pyrenees Dog
Kangal Dog
Sarplaninac Dog
If you are talking about a wolf pack against a single dog, the dog loses, if you are talking one on one or pack against pack the dogs are just as good as the wolves.


64 posted on 10/05/2015 12:49:01 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: KC_Lion
"I hear Coyotes can be just as bad."

You hear wrong.

65 posted on 10/05/2015 12:49:27 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Pikachu_Dad

They’ll just come back.


66 posted on 10/05/2015 12:51:11 PM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SJackson

Besides the option of being civilly disobedient and telling the judge to pound sand, if he chose to be out in the same area as his livestock wouldn’t shooting the wolves in order to protect a human life (his own) be in compliance with the order?


67 posted on 10/05/2015 12:55:57 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: SJackson

The farmer fouled up by not video recording the wolves killing livestock. While it would cost him something, when all the animal loving people out there saw the butchery, they would turn against that judge big time.

Often those who behave irrationally with the law will change their tune quickly when confronted with strong emotions by enough people.


68 posted on 10/05/2015 12:57:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: 43north

#wolflivesmatter


69 posted on 10/05/2015 12:59:46 PM PDT by bayoung18
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To: KC_Lion
I hear Coyotes can be just as bad.

Not really. They're smaller. Afraid of humans in places humans can shoot them, and though they function in packs they mostly hunt individually. You can get some disagreement on that, maybe they're learning, but nothing like the cooperation of a wolf pack. And anecdotally, avoid large dogs in rural areas, farm dogs being nasty. And you can defend yourself and your property from coyotes in most rural areas. Cities where you can't "harass" wildlife even if they are eating your mini poodle, sorry, not my idea.

70 posted on 10/05/2015 1:00:37 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

That is a long and painful death.


71 posted on 10/05/2015 1:02:33 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Pikachu_Dad
What about a bean bag round... Or some other non-lethal route?

I mentioned rounds like bangers and screamers up the thread. I suspect would be effective in an incident but they'd come back. I spooked a black bear once with a high decibel whistle while boating. Scared the *hit out of hem, literally. Didn't come back looking for garbage for at least 30 minutes. If they're preying on livestock, the only solution is killing them. And their pals will get the idea the humans aren't benign.

72 posted on 10/05/2015 1:04:16 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
You're right, should have been on you tube with the judges name along with the Presidents. Of course sometimes you can't video these things.

The article doesn't mention it but I'm told, at least in Wisconsin, that compensation is difficult to obtain unless you can prove the kill was from a wolf. Absent a photo, unlikely in most cases, how do you distinguish wolf bites from coyotes or feral dogs.

73 posted on 10/05/2015 1:08:05 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: SJackson

Common sense invites revision of the law to allow for actions that would prevent/inhibit loss of property due to animal behaviors. Not that we should expect much common sense from legislators these days.


74 posted on 10/05/2015 1:09:22 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Diversity is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sharing the same jail cell.)
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To: SJackson
US District Judge Beryl Howell

Really? Wolves and Howell? You can't make this stuff up.

75 posted on 10/05/2015 1:11:44 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Common sense invites revision of the law to allow for actions that would prevent/inhibit loss of property due to animal behaviors

It does, the law should be changed. Endangered Species Act or not, let voters see the pics of bloody puppies.

76 posted on 10/05/2015 1:15:16 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: Fledermaus
Wolves and Howell? You can't make this stuff up.

:>)

77 posted on 10/05/2015 1:15:41 PM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The worst wolves walk on two legs.”

And, get appointed as Federal judges. Between judges and federal agencies, we citizens are subject to rulings and regulations that are more oppressive than what was supposed to happen under the US Constitution.


78 posted on 10/05/2015 1:18:03 PM PDT by RicocheT (Only a few prefer liberty--the majority seek nothing more than fair masters. Sallust, Histories)
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To: 5th MEB

None of which should be necessary. Nor will it avoid prosecution for killing a protected wolf.


79 posted on 10/05/2015 1:18:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SJackson

Shoot and scoot.


80 posted on 10/05/2015 1:20:50 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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