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Donald Trump Sees a ‘Collapse’ in a G.O.P. Campaign Without Him
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/05/donald-trump-sees-a-collapse-in-a-g-o-p-campa ^ | 10/5/2015 | Michael Barbaro

Posted on 10/05/2015 9:50:07 AM PDT by dragnet2

Mr. Trump said that a presidential campaign without him would become so “boring” that he would struggle to pay any attention to it.

“I wouldn’t even be watching it probably, and neither would anybody else,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; donaldtrump; election2016; gop; newyork; trump
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To: HarleyLady27

I’m there. America has sunken into an abyss, smothered by a government which has become so large and so corrupt, it might be beyond salvage. On the financial front alone, I’ve spoken to financial professionals, a couple of which I’m close to. These guys know numbers. They’re of the opinion America’s epic ever growing debt alone, will eventually choke the financially life out of the U.S. They paint an extremely grim picture.


21 posted on 10/05/2015 10:38:04 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: JohnBrowdie

From time to time, someone invents an excellent wheel. Once invented, it’s hard to better the product, and so instead of a ’wheel’ invented by me, I offer one by a Freeper named M1911A1.

With all credit for writing this going to M1911A1, here is your answer:

At this point, I’d hardly care if in 2014 Trump had come out in support of almost any liberal cause.

The republic is dying. The libs are killing it, but guess who helps them? That’s right, the “conservatives” of the GOP!

You want to despise Trump for a former stance on abortion, when, as a private citizen, he could do little about it except write checks to politicians. I’m wagering it wasn’t a hot button donor issue for a guy focused on his empire.

Well how ‘bout that “conservative” Mitch McConnell, a man who could actually do something about it...it’s his job to do something about it, he was given power to do something about it. He did something today, he declared it was “futility” to defund Planned Parenthood, and this is only the latest in a long, long, and shameful list of outrages that have been either condoned or conducted by him and the other GOPe oligarchs.

You may dislike Trump, but remember that Mitch hates you if you are conservative, as do his masters, the big donors to Super Pacs. They only care about staying in power and growing government, and they trot out a conservative dog and pony show every once in a while to keep us yokels in line.

They have been busy changing the rules to make sure they are there forever, and if they lose to a Democrat, it’s no big deal, because they ultimately don’t differ all that much on the big issues.

Trump may strike you as too liberal, a braggart, a phony, or refreshing. It doesn’t matter. Supporting anybody else at this point is asking for the entrenched uniparty to keep abusing you. Trump is the only way out of this abusive relationship that is going to put your freedom in the grave.

After he upsets that applecart, we can start looking for someone better, but if we say no thanks to Trump the GOPe will figure out ways to make sure that no more challenges like his are ever mounted.

There are no guarantees that Trump is the real deal, or that even if he is that he can fix the crooked system, but if he doesn’t get that chance it is guaranteed that the crooked system will fix it so us annoying voters are even more irrelevant than we are now.

Trump has awoken them to the fact that even us dullards will only take so much, and once Trump exposes them, if they defeat Trump they won’t even have to put on the dog and pony show anymore.


22 posted on 10/05/2015 10:39:45 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“I’m not the one supporting a lifelong liberal democrat in a republican primary.”

Keep lying there buddy. It’s what you do best.
Trump was a registered Republican through the 80’s and 90’s before switching briefly to Democrat and more recently, back to Republican. Then again, them’s just the facts. Nothing you need to bother yourself with.


23 posted on 10/05/2015 10:41:48 AM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I was being facetious.

I’d be happy with a second party. Heaven knows it’s been at least a generation, probably two, since we’ve had a real actual live second party.


24 posted on 10/05/2015 10:42:00 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Balding_Eagle

“From time to time, someone invents an excellent wheel. Once invented, it’s hard to better the product, and so instead of a ’wheel’ invented by me, I offer one by a Freeper named M1911A1.

With all credit for writing this going to M1911A1, here is your answer:

At this point, I’d hardly care if in 2014 Trump had come out in support of almost any liberal cause.

The republic is dying. The libs are killing it, but guess who helps them? That’s right, the “conservatives” of the GOP!

You want to despise Trump for a former stance on abortion, when, as a private citizen, he could do little about it except write checks to politicians. I’m wagering it wasn’t a hot button donor issue for a guy focused on his empire.

Well how ‘bout that “conservative” Mitch McConnell, a man who could actually do something about it...it’s his job to do something about it, he was given power to do something about it. He did something today, he declared it was “futility” to defund Planned Parenthood, and this is only the latest in a long, long, and shameful list of outrages that have been either condoned or conducted by him and the other GOPe oligarchs.

You may dislike Trump, but remember that Mitch hates you if you are conservative, as do his masters, the big donors to Super Pacs. They only care about staying in power and growing government, and they trot out a conservative dog and pony show every once in a while to keep us yokels in line.

They have been busy changing the rules to make sure they are there forever, and if they lose to a Democrat, it’s no big deal, because they ultimately don’t differ all that much on the big issues.

Trump may strike you as too liberal, a braggart, a phony, or refreshing. It doesn’t matter. Supporting anybody else at this point is asking for the entrenched uniparty to keep abusing you. Trump is the only way out of this abusive relationship that is going to put your freedom in the grave.

After he upsets that applecart, we can start looking for someone better, but if we say no thanks to Trump the GOPe will figure out ways to make sure that no more challenges like his are ever mounted.

There are no guarantees that Trump is the real deal, or that even if he is that he can fix the crooked system, but if he doesn’t get that chance it is guaranteed that the crooked system will fix it so us annoying voters are even more irrelevant than we are now.

Trump has awoken them to the fact that even us dullards will only take so much, and once Trump exposes them, if they defeat Trump they won’t even have to put on the dog and pony show anymore.”

Outstanding. Bears repeating. Hope you don’t mind, but I will pass this around. There are some things here that I could comment on, but the overall truth to this post excludes me from doing so. Just WOW, what a great sentiment.


25 posted on 10/05/2015 11:05:38 AM PDT by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

No he’s right the rest of them blow RINO GOPe ass


26 posted on 10/05/2015 11:19:05 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: dragnet2
Donald Trump Sees a ‘Collapse’ in a G.O.P. Campaign Without Him

Trump is definitely accurate in his assessment.

27 posted on 10/05/2015 11:22:50 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: HarleyLady27
Thank God for President Trump!!! He loves America, he wants her to survive and be the Great Lady she should be...

You know that Trump isn't President, right?

28 posted on 10/05/2015 11:33:42 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

He might as well be, there isn’t one there and hasn’t been for 7 1/2 years.......


29 posted on 10/05/2015 11:37:02 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

There has been a disaster for the past 6 and a half years, of course, but that’s no reason to elect another disaster in Trump, just because he pretends to be a conservative now.


30 posted on 10/05/2015 11:39:00 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Black Agnes

Why not we have been asked to support liberal Republicans since 1968 except for Reagan. Nixon, GHW Bush, Dole, GW Bush, McCain, Romney, all we have had shoved down our throats by the GOPE and Party worshipers have been liberal Republicans.


31 posted on 10/05/2015 11:47:06 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: sarge83

Exactly my point.

Done holding my nose and voting for the GOPe candidates. They’ve done nothing but pass the left’s agenda since we gave them congress.

Nothing at all.


32 posted on 10/05/2015 11:51:03 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: dragnet2

I still think the base isnt making enough noise.


33 posted on 10/05/2015 12:24:02 PM PDT by rrrod (Jhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3343827/reply?c=1ust an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
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To: sarge83; Conscience of a Conservative
That's right sarge. This has been coming for many decades and certainly did not all occur under Obama. Our lawless violent borders, epic national debt, government looting the national treasure, government expanding it's size, scope and control etc.

Decade after decade it simply gets incrementally worse.

34 posted on 10/05/2015 12:29:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

No other Republican will get my vote.


35 posted on 10/05/2015 12:49:46 PM PDT by odawg
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To: dragnet2

He better be on the GOP line on the ballot.

Otherwise, I’ll pass it by.

It is telling that the GOP would rather throw the election (AGAIN!) than have someone who even emotes a conservative position win it.

If Trump does not make the nomination if he is clearly in the lead by convention time, there will be a write-in campaign like no one has ever seen before.


36 posted on 10/05/2015 12:53:10 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: JohnBrowdie
no, his fans would just go back to watching Honey Boo Boo.

Welcome to everyone's list...


37 posted on 10/05/2015 2:34:11 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: dragnet2
He is right, no one cares about the other GOP candidates.

And the GOPe aren't going allow Cruz to win.

38 posted on 10/05/2015 3:05:46 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: dragnet2
The corrupt main stream media, professional con-men in DC, influence peddlers, La Raza, lobbyist, Mexico, Communist academia and the rest would be dancing in the streets.

Ha....good luck wid dat...

Trump inflicted a great and irrevocable hurt on all those you mentioned

A Paradigm Shift applied to the political world.

Trumps latest Twitter is just messing with their tiny minds.

39 posted on 10/05/2015 4:19:17 PM PDT by spokeshave (MDSM = Mentally Discombobulated Screaming Media)
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To: M1911A1; DaveinOK54

M1911A1, take another bow for that fabulous piece you wrote.

Your writings have hit the mark more than once, and here’s another instance.


40 posted on 10/05/2015 6:08:14 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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