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1 posted on 10/05/2015 7:26:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Absolutely true. The Christians there would also still be alive and we wouldn’t have the migration invasion.

George W. was delusional to think that with Saddam gone the Iraqis would embrace freedom. Their Muslim ideology is anti-democratic. The choice is secular dictator or religious dictator. Take your pick.

I’d prefer the secular dictators.


2 posted on 10/05/2015 7:27:58 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. And this really must be ticking off the Bush family, so that is a pleasure.


3 posted on 10/05/2015 7:29:52 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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He’s correct - but Donald, don’t say what “WE” did there. Always say - what OBAMA and CLINTON did there.

They assassinated Khaddafi and turned Libya into a failed, violent, Jihadi state — for what reason???


4 posted on 10/05/2015 7:30:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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Trump is wrong on this. Hussein was responsible for the deaths of 1.3 million innocents. He used chemical weapons. He invaded Kuwait and burned the oil fields as he was forced out. He wanted a nuke and would have gotten it before Iran had he been just left alone.

The reason that the Middle East is in its current condition is that a Muslim community organizer came to power in Jan 2009 and continues in power because American screwed up again in Nov 2012.


7 posted on 10/05/2015 7:31:44 AM PDT by doug from upland
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He's absolutely correct. Easy for me to say in hindsight, given that at the time I was fully onboard is overthrowing Saddam and the Ba'athists. But who can deny that this region of the world will never accept Western style democracy? These countries need a strong secular leader to keep the islamists under control. It may not be pretty but it's necessary.

Look at Iran pre and post revolution. Can anyone deny that Iran functioned better under the Shah? That Iran was a better neighbor and a productive state under the Shah? Even Assad in Syria is preferable to the caliphate! At least under Saddam and Assad Christians were free to worship as they pleased and participate in the general society.

10 posted on 10/05/2015 7:36:21 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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Let’s see...

Iraq under Saddam Hussein:

1) Invaded two neighboring countries.
2) Fired SCUD missiles at Israel.
3) Plotted to assassinate a US president.
4) Not only had WMD but used chemical weapons.
5) Engaged in ethnic cleansing and mass genocide.
6) Harbored international terrorists including Abu Nidal.
7) Financed suicide bombers operating Israel.
8) Wiped out the Marsh Arabs living in Iraq’s south.
9) Tried to acquire uranium to produce nuclear weapons.
10) Allowed terrorists to practice hijacking skills in Iraq.

The causus belli were numerous. The case against Saddam is solid. He received his just reward in the end. He deserved what he got. He was a mini-Hitler operating in the region who tried to get away with as much as possible.

Please, let’s not re-write history like the Left always does.


16 posted on 10/05/2015 7:41:02 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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The cultures of the ME absolutely require tyranny.


26 posted on 10/05/2015 7:49:09 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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I was a strong supporter of the Iraq war(s). And I was wrong. I did not know the mind of the arab, and most everyone there. You can’t bring sandy losers stuck in the dark ages into modern concepts of fredom.

Biggest lesson: True freedom is unnatural. When freedom is given or bestowed, it just gets corrupted and dies, quite fast. Freedom must be earned, fought for, craved with the entirety of the soul. It is a rare people who win freedom. And it must be won.

And during the fight, all opposed to freedom must be destroyed, completely and utterly destroyed. Because control freaks never, ever, ever give up. It’s a compulsion eminating from the core of their being.


30 posted on 10/05/2015 7:50:12 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump!!!)
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Russia was “more stable” under Joseph Stalin too but I don’t think it was a good thing.


32 posted on 10/05/2015 7:52:56 AM PDT by circlecity
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RIght on Gadhafi, wrong on Saddam.


38 posted on 10/05/2015 8:05:33 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Absolutely true

SoDamn Hinsane was evil and had to be removed because he was actively involved with killing people in Israel.

He was paying families of suicide bombers $25,000 remember?

But we did not leave a stable government in place. We had no plan to. There should have been a meeting with the 3 main groups where we imposed a “United States of Iraq” solution on them with 3 states and a copy of our constitution. Then told them if you don’t do this we will do it for you, and you wont be around to see it.

Libya, on the other hand, was nice and well behaved since Reagan handed him his ass (almost literally)


47 posted on 10/05/2015 8:39:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, when asked if he believes the Middle East would be better today if Moammar Gadhafi of Libya and Saddam Hussein of Iraq were still in power.

Wrong. He was asked that question 15 TIMES in a row by that smarmy puke Chuck Todd. Is that the new tactic to get Trump to respond to asinine questions?

49 posted on 10/05/2015 9:06:39 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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With the luxury of 20-20 hindsight we can see that ousting Saddam was probably a mistake,(not having the benefit of a parallel universe to see what would have happened had SH been left alone) but at least Iraq was under control until December 2011 when the little gay commie RAT-bastard pulled all US troops out of Iraq for his own aggrandizement. In contrast to Obozo’s carelessness, I remember Cheney being asked how long we were going to have US troops in Iraq. He said “indefinitely...as long as it takes”.

We did not start the Iraq war. Saddam did in 1990 with his invasion of Kuwait. The invasion of 2003 was a continuation of that same war brought about by the refusal of Saddam to adhere to multiple UN resolutions agreed to by him at the time of the “truce”. IMO the major point debatable is whether or not Bush should have had the US Military enforcing UN resolutions...The UN...the most corrupt and useless body on Earth.


50 posted on 10/05/2015 9:10:42 AM PDT by Zman516 (Truth is the new hate speech -- Thought-Criminal #1)
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uh oh....he’s taking the “Bush’s Stupid Illegal War” weapon right out of the Democrats’ hand.


57 posted on 10/05/2015 9:56:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Knowing what we know today I think Trump is right. Who knew at the time that Obama would come into power in 2008 and totally screw things up. He was behind the unrest in Egypt, the over throw of power in Libya, trying to unseat Assad in Syria and who knows what else.


58 posted on 10/05/2015 10:13:09 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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Amazing how people dis Trump...then he says this and a few thousand people with the same thought sign up for Trump.


61 posted on 10/05/2015 10:36:32 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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Duh!


67 posted on 10/05/2015 11:18:31 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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76 posted on 10/05/2015 11:52:57 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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The world is a much safer place for the rest of us when Islamic morons are kept safely suppressed.


77 posted on 10/05/2015 12:49:14 PM PDT by amnestynone (Political Correction is a tactic based social intimidation to suppress opposing views.)
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He also told the Franklin audience that during the time of Saddam Hussein's "vicious" rule in Iraq "there were no terrorists in Iraq."

What a Biden-level stupid boneheaded comment- I hope he was misquoted but fear he wasn't.

80 posted on 10/06/2015 4:53:44 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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