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To: RKV
“We know that the states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths.”

Well, it's a truism of sorts, but it's stupid. The gun grabbers need to conflate homicides with suicides to say this, that is -- they say "gun deaths" instead of "murders".

"Gun deaths" includes homicides, but also suicides and accidents.

I don't know about you, but I am more concerned about protecting someone who doesn't want to die than I am about someone who actually wants to die. Firearm suicides outnumber homicides by a ratio of about 2:1, so conflating the two completely obfuscates what is happening.

The states with the lowest homicide rates generally have high gun suicide rates, because there are many guns available. With fewer guns, cities like New York, Chicago and Washington DC have fewer gun suicides, but they have high murder rates and they have high rates of suicide from jumping in front of subway trains and jumping from bridges and high places.

Conversely, states like Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming have 0.0% suicide rates resulting from jumping in front of subway trains. (Therefore, they should outlaw subways in New York, Chicago and Washington DC. For the children!)

It's just a stupid comparison and a stupid argument.

29 posted on 10/04/2015 12:19:04 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: Sooth2222

Japan has a higher suicide rate than the US does, and effectively no private firearms. Funny term I learned in economics - substitution. Including suicide by firearm is an error because of substitution.


32 posted on 10/04/2015 2:07:45 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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