Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

American Cargo Ship ‘El Faro’ Missing with 33 Crew in Hurricane Joaquin
gCaptain ^ | October 2, 2015 | Mike Schuler

Posted on 10/02/2015 4:50:41 PM PDT by artichokegrower

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-68 last
To: Travis McGee

Yep especially listed


61 posted on 10/03/2015 11:12:11 AM PDT by wardaddy (i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: frithguild; Travis McGee; Pelham

She’s old but she’s ABS classed

She’s been re skinned several times since Pennsylvania launch in 75 Id reckon?

And lengthened....now that would be my focus point

I brought a much smaller 4500 gwt Dutch built vessel from Ravenna to Mobile AL to start a pole charter to Dar Es Salaam TZ in 87.....she was classed up to date British Lloyds in Ravenna inspection before I bought her

In Mobile the German born Brit Lloyds inspector came to reinspect her because change of ownership and reflagged from Malta to Panama

He was a sadist.....and could not be bribed....trust me

I spent another 160,000 dry docked at Bender in Mobile with new skin and welds etc etc....tank tops and so forth even though she just passed inspection by another Brit Lloyd man in Ravenna just 20 days earlier

I ran Brit Lloyd two more years and switched to Hellenic class...much much less stringent

Norske Veritas and Germanischer Lloyd and British Lloyds and ABS..America....And Nippon class

Bureau Veritas....french...top notch but not punitive

Italiano Navale.....a notch further down

The main requirement for super classification societies is the cargo

The more expensive the more it’s likely required

Ditto Cruise Ships usually.....but not always


62 posted on 10/03/2015 11:34:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy

The ocean doesn’t love you, it doesn’t care, it doesn’t feel, it just is.

The ocean is always waiting for your mistake to line up with bad weather, and then it will kill you dead, sure as shit.

(Still way better than dying in an old folks home or in ICU, stuck with needles and tubes.?


63 posted on 10/03/2015 12:54:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy

200’ freefall lifeboat drop test. Great video.

http://youtu.be/2uK3gxZs4jE

I found it on this excellent CruisersForum thread:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f122/safety-of-ships-lifeboats-in-major-storms-153992-3.html

I think a freefall lifeboat is the only chance for a successful deployment in a Cat 4 hurricane.


64 posted on 10/04/2015 6:19:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Pelham; Cold Heart; Ramius

Please see the above 4 minute video.

Thoughts?


65 posted on 10/04/2015 6:25:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

This is a very surprising event at least to me

Very uncommon for such a well maintained ship and seasoned crew to go down like this without hitting something


66 posted on 10/04/2015 11:45:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

It’s an amazing industry

Oil rigs and cruise ships especially for first class deck

Wonder what they cost

I’m guessing 350-600k each plus davit system


67 posted on 10/04/2015 12:03:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

Somehow I missed this post of yours, sorry.

My thoughts on the 200” drop were what would the crew look like after that.

Previously we had discussed what a launch might look like from the El Faro. I think that busted up lifeboat they recovered was, as you described, exactly what happened when they attempted to launch. The other lifeboat stayed secured to the ship when it went down.


68 posted on 10/07/2015 8:27:14 PM PDT by Cold Heart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-68 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson