Degeneracy rewarded virtue punished. How long are we going to tolerate this type of state conduct?
Looks like Aaron and Melissa Klein aren’t taking this lying down. They’re not licked yet!
The bureaucrats who sit on these star chambers have names and addresses.
The Federal government used to know that.
They will lose on that claim.
They should ask for a determination on how the fine was arrived at and for comparable cases where fines of this size were assessed against similar sized companies for a minor inconvenience.
"Cruel and unusual", "excessively punitive" both come to mind.
Note to lurkers: Yes it is "minor" they could have gotten their cake from any number of other bakeries. The couple sought these people out just for this purpose.
In neighboring Washington, teachers had a week-long illegal strike. The judge threatened a $2000/day fine on the seventh day. In that case we have literally thousands of kids (actually) harmed and the result is $2000 fine, while in the other we have a couple who shopped for media worthy outlet to bring down, with the result being $135,000 fine for NO HARM. Life in America is making less and less sense.
We need to use the term “SOCIOECONOMIC FASCISM” more.
The gov’t is using FORCE to require these people to abide by their SOCIAL RULES.
The Fascism is here.
I’m glad no one cares. :)
Fight!!!
We’re with you!!
A general question to those more knowledgeable than I regarding the Constitutional Law
The first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF;...
It seems to me that means that Gov’t cannot force anyone, or any business, from their devotional religious beliefs, be their religious practices lackadaisical (like me) or to very devoted in practice (like this couple)
So when Gov’t / SCOTUS decides that a law is valid, though in opposition to ones religious devotion, doesn’t the 1st Amendment still prevent Gov’t from superseding that religious practice (and perhaps the 10th Amendment as well)?
I think the Crowdfunding site kind of blew whatever "financial hardship" argument they may have had right out of the water. Better to stand on principle and refuse to pay on religious grounds.
Fight the judgement on the ice if they have to.
These bakers don’t have to make it easy for them to collect.
100 patriots with evil black rifles will veto that ruling.
Would this be happening if a Muslim bakery told a gay couple that they would not bake a cake for their wedding? I bet not.
Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer
Meanwhile, these poor, innocent lesbians have been unable to marry for want of a proper cake.
Wait
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If I recall ...didn’t this judge order they couldn’t use the money raised or funds from their business? Or some such nonsense?
I fully supporty them. But Unfortunately I don’t think it will go well..
Conservatives are required to obey all laws, courts etc. Liberals and democrats can do anything they want at any time and get away with it.
Slap a lien on my stuff and it would mysteriously burn to the ground.