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1 posted on 10/01/2015 8:23:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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First Kim Davis, now this couple. The Civil disobedience is going to spread, I hope (unless the government confiscate their property and jail them first ).


Melissa and Aaron Klein are refusing to pay $135,000 in damages to a lesbian couple whom they denied service based on religious objections
2 posted on 10/01/2015 8:25:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Degeneracy rewarded virtue punished. How long are we going to tolerate this type of state conduct?


3 posted on 10/01/2015 8:26:04 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Looks like Aaron and Melissa Klein aren’t taking this lying down. They’re not licked yet!


4 posted on 10/01/2015 8:26:05 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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The bureaucrats who sit on these star chambers have names and addresses.


5 posted on 10/01/2015 8:30:04 AM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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One of the three fundamental liberties given to us by God is the economic liberty to provide for our families.

The Federal government used to know that.

6 posted on 10/01/2015 8:31:22 AM PDT by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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claiming financial hardship

They will lose on that claim.

They should ask for a determination on how the fine was arrived at and for comparable cases where fines of this size were assessed against similar sized companies for a minor inconvenience.

"Cruel and unusual", "excessively punitive" both come to mind.

Note to lurkers: Yes it is "minor" they could have gotten their cake from any number of other bakeries. The couple sought these people out just for this purpose.

7 posted on 10/01/2015 8:32:43 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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In neighboring Washington, teachers had a week-long illegal strike. The judge threatened a $2000/day fine on the seventh day. In that case we have literally thousands of kids (actually) harmed and the result is $2000 fine, while in the other we have a couple who shopped for media worthy outlet to bring down, with the result being $135,000 fine for NO HARM. Life in America is making less and less sense.


8 posted on 10/01/2015 8:32:56 AM PDT by blues-train (blues train)
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We need to use the term “SOCIOECONOMIC FASCISM” more.

The gov’t is using FORCE to require these people to abide by their SOCIAL RULES.


10 posted on 10/01/2015 8:33:36 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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The Fascism is here.

I’m glad no one cares. :)


13 posted on 10/01/2015 8:35:36 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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Fight!!!
We’re with you!!

A general question to those more knowledgeable than I regarding the Constitutional Law

The first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF;...

It seems to me that means that Gov’t cannot force anyone, or any business, from their devotional religious beliefs, be their religious practices lackadaisical (like me) or to very devoted in practice (like this couple)

So when Gov’t / SCOTUS decides that a law is valid, though in opposition to ones religious devotion, doesn’t the 1st Amendment still prevent Gov’t from superseding that religious practice (and perhaps the 10th Amendment as well)?


15 posted on 10/01/2015 8:40:48 AM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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The Kleins have filed an appeal of the ruling, claiming financial hardship even though crowdfunding efforts have raised more than $500,000 for the couple, according to OregonLive.com.

I think the Crowdfunding site kind of blew whatever "financial hardship" argument they may have had right out of the water. Better to stand on principle and refuse to pay on religious grounds.

18 posted on 10/01/2015 8:53:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Fight the judgement on the ice if they have to.

These bakers don’t have to make it easy for them to collect.


21 posted on 10/01/2015 9:09:39 AM PDT by cicero2k
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100 patriots with evil black rifles will veto that ruling.


22 posted on 10/01/2015 9:12:01 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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Ted Cruz is working very closely with them. They spoke at the religious freedom rally in Iowa.
24 posted on 10/01/2015 9:30:34 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Would this be happening if a Muslim bakery told a gay couple that they would not bake a cake for their wedding? I bet not.


25 posted on 10/01/2015 9:32:47 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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…Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer…

Meanwhile, these poor, innocent lesbians have been unable to marry for want of a proper cake.

Wait….

26 posted on 10/01/2015 9:43:20 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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If I recall ...didn’t this judge order they couldn’t use the money raised or funds from their business? Or some such nonsense?


28 posted on 10/01/2015 10:11:12 AM PDT by EBH
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I fully supporty them. But Unfortunately I don’t think it will go well..

Conservatives are required to obey all laws, courts etc. Liberals and democrats can do anything they want at any time and get away with it.


29 posted on 10/01/2015 10:17:40 AM PDT by Cubs Fan ( liberalism=totalitarianism- http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/the-new-totalitarians-are-here/)
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Slap a lien on my stuff and it would mysteriously burn to the ground.


35 posted on 10/01/2015 12:59:08 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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36 posted on 10/01/2015 4:32:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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