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Oregon bakery refuses to pay damages to lesbian couple denied service
Cleveland.com ^ | 10/01/2015 | By Cliff Pinckard, Northeast Ohio Media Group

Posted on 10/01/2015 8:23:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The owners of an Oregon bakery are refusing to pay state-ordered damages to a lesbian couple after a dispute over a same-sex wedding cake, reports say.

Aaron and Melissa Klein, who own Sweet Cakes by Melissa, were ordered by the Bureau of Labor and Industries to pay $135,000 to Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer, reports OregonLive.com.

The Kleins have filed an appeal of the ruling, claiming financial hardship even though crowdfunding efforts have raised more than $500,000 for the couple, according to OregonLive.com.

Herb Grey, a lawyer representing the Kleins, tells Reuters the couple has raised far less than $500,000, but he would not say how much has been raised.

"They continue to stand on their well-established constitutional rights to live and work based on their values and beliefs," Grey said. "Religion is a protected class just like sexual orientation is."

Their refusal to pay damages has resulted in the state going to court to obtain a property lien against the Kleins.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: baker; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; oregon; ssm
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To: SeekAndFind

Fight the judgement on the ice if they have to.

These bakers don’t have to make it easy for them to collect.


21 posted on 10/01/2015 9:09:39 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: SeekAndFind

100 patriots with evil black rifles will veto that ruling.


22 posted on 10/01/2015 9:12:01 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

When evil Justice Holmes and the Fabians destroyed our so-called “Justice” System and forced Marxism/welfare/theft/vice (sodomy) into “Just Laws” civil society will proceed into tyranny (Cicero).

“When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law”. (St. Thomas Aquinas (Nuremberg Trials).

Justice WAS the Queen of Virtue in the West-—it is why the West was superior to the East: Excellence/Universal Truth (God/Christianity (rational religion)) so science could be invented along with the Law of Non-Contradiction, which doesn’t exist in the East, or for Postmodernist idiot Atheists/Marxists where Up is Down. They are our “god” (LOL) and can dictate lies to us, so our children are made so irrational they believe “snow is black” and boys are girls. Insanity is ruling and it is ALL unconstitutional.

The evil SCOTUS facilitated this irrational take-over of our “Justice” (virtue) System (Read tagline) and made it into a Vice (Marxist/satanic) System. The Left literally took Right Reason out of “Just Law” and forced irrational, vile behaviors as a “good”, so our children will be incapable of the Western worldview of our Founders.

The SCOTUS members who voted for the evil, irrational vice of sodomy which defies Natural Law (Reason) and God’s Laws, need to be put in prison for Treason——throwing out our Constitution and Rule of Law (Higher Laws/God’s)) for Satan’s laws.


23 posted on 10/01/2015 9:22:43 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ted Cruz is working very closely with them. They spoke at the religious freedom rally in Iowa.
24 posted on 10/01/2015 9:30:34 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Would this be happening if a Muslim bakery told a gay couple that they would not bake a cake for their wedding? I bet not.


25 posted on 10/01/2015 9:32:47 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: SeekAndFind
…Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer…

Meanwhile, these poor, innocent lesbians have been unable to marry for want of a proper cake.

Wait….

26 posted on 10/01/2015 9:43:20 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: Thunder90
Would this be happening if a Muslim bakery told a gay couple that they would not bake a cake for their wedding? I bet not.

Find a Muslim bakery in Oregon and find out. If you're right then it would help this couple with their appeal.

27 posted on 10/01/2015 10:04:17 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

If I recall ...didn’t this judge order they couldn’t use the money raised or funds from their business? Or some such nonsense?


28 posted on 10/01/2015 10:11:12 AM PDT by EBH
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To: SeekAndFind

I fully supporty them. But Unfortunately I don’t think it will go well..

Conservatives are required to obey all laws, courts etc. Liberals and democrats can do anything they want at any time and get away with it.


29 posted on 10/01/2015 10:17:40 AM PDT by Cubs Fan ( liberalism=totalitarianism- http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/the-new-totalitarians-are-here/)
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To: theDentist
It seems to me that means that Gov’t cannot force anyone, or any business, from their devotional religious beliefs, be their religious practices lackadaisical (like me) or to very devoted in practice (like this couple)

The Klein's are free to exercise their religion as they see fit. But running a business is not a requirement of the free exercise of their religion. Where their religious beliefs come into conflict with the rights of others is at the center of this whole issue, and personally I think it should never have reached this stage. I think the actions taken against the Klein's is wildly out of proportion to the "damages" suffered. The couple in question should just have been told to find another bakery and the Klein's - and every other merchant - should have a right to make it clear who they will and will not serve.

30 posted on 10/01/2015 10:18:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: blues-train

“In that case we have literally thousands of kids (actually) harmed”

I’d think that not having public school teachers working would be a positive thing for the kids.


31 posted on 10/01/2015 10:20:52 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Beware the tyranny of the easily offended. (Stossel))
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
How long are we going to tolerate this type of state conduct?

Until the tribulation I fear.

32 posted on 10/01/2015 11:09:34 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Michael.SF.
"Cruel and unusual", "excessively punitive" both come to mind.

I think "arbitrary and capricious" is legal standard for review of this action which should be tossed out by the first judge that hears it.

33 posted on 10/01/2015 11:17:38 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Seruzawa

The bureaucrats who sit on these star chambers have names and addresses.
-—==+==-—
and addresses


34 posted on 10/01/2015 12:27:27 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Slap a lien on my stuff and it would mysteriously burn to the ground.


35 posted on 10/01/2015 12:59:08 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind


36 posted on 10/01/2015 4:32:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

I lost my Oregon list when my computer crashed last year, so please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

37 posted on 10/01/2015 5:33:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this were me, I would have packed up my crap in my truck, set fire to my house and left for Texas a long time ago.


38 posted on 10/01/2015 5:34:31 PM PDT by Rodamala
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