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Hitler or Stalin? The Case for Choosing
American Thinker ^ | September 30, 2015 | Shoshana Bryen

Posted on 10/01/2015 8:09:34 AM PDT by Kenny

FDR made a great many difficult and ugly decisions – aside from interning Japanese-American citizens and not bombing the railroad tracks to Auschwitz. In this context, he made two for what he thought was the greater good: ignoring Stalin's crimes, and committing all the resources necessary to achieve the unconditional surrender of Axis forces.  He put the American economy on a war footing, drafted millions of soldiers, and dropped tons of bombs that often didn't distinguish between military forces and civilians.  He believed that the faster the war ended, the better it was for the civilians and everyone else.  It wasn't a perfect understanding – particularly for the Jews waiting for deliverance.  But it was his understanding, and Truman concurred. Dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a calculated decision to take the casualties, including civilians, up front.

It is also worth remembering that the Allies never did turn their armies toward Stalin – to the dismay of millions of prisoners of the gulags, millions more forcibly detained in the Soviet empire for the next 45 years, and captive Soviet Jews.  But the Allies – meaning America – did in fact create the framework for 70 years of multilateral understanding in Europe and Asia.  The Cold War was the diplomatic way of boxing in the USSR until it collapsed.

That is not a tactical proposal for coming to grips with the dual horrors of ISIS and Iran.  It is a strategic one. 

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Good article.
1 posted on 10/01/2015 8:09:35 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny

Essentially the same thing, just variations on the theme.

And an FDR type isn’t a whole lot better.

Progressives all.


2 posted on 10/01/2015 8:10:33 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kenny

M4L Stalin


3 posted on 10/01/2015 8:11:47 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Kenny

I actually know a woman whose parents had to make that choice.

She was born in Lithuania. When she was a young girl the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact fell apart. Her parents had to make a choice...do we want to raise these kids under Hitler or Stalin?

They chose Hitler. They were guest workers at a factory in Germany, at least until the British bombed their house. They ended up in a refugee camp and, eventually, here.

Talk about your Sophie’s Choice!


4 posted on 10/01/2015 8:13:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kenny

Dear Clown in Chief Obama

If you will not lead, then get us the hell out of the way.


5 posted on 10/01/2015 8:13:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Kenny

In terms of numbers, Stalin wins hands down. Only Mao can challenge him.


6 posted on 10/01/2015 8:18:13 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Buckeye McFrog

My grandparents got the same choice. My father’s family ended up in one of Hitler’s camps, temporarily, but it was better than being shipped to Siberia. My parents still remember the block-by-block roundups in the Baltics, and are afraid of what’s happening in this country now.


7 posted on 10/01/2015 8:25:05 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Kenny

It was the best decision.

The USSR was a paranoid, and backwards state that were defeated by the Poles and the Finns, and posed no threat to the west. The physical manpower they could field was what won the war ultimately.

Germany had the most brilliant scientific minds on Earth, brilliant generals, the ability to outsmart their enemies, and were 2 years away from controllable ICBMs, atomic weapons, and jet craft that were 50 years ahead of the west.


8 posted on 10/01/2015 8:25:29 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: TBP; Kenny

He also returned a passenger vessel with Jewish refugees back to the gas chambers!!!


9 posted on 10/01/2015 8:25:51 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

Progressivism at work.


10 posted on 10/01/2015 8:33:31 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kenny
FDR made a great many difficult and ugly decisions – aside from interning Japanese-American citizens and not bombing the railroad tracks to Auschwitz.

I'll leave a discussion of interning Japanese-American citizens for another day. But the Germans had very efficient railroad repair teams. And the Germans actually gave the camps priority over requirements from the front. So it is doubtful that bombing the tracks to Auschwitz would have made a whole lot of difference.

11 posted on 10/01/2015 8:34:44 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Kenny

ping for later


12 posted on 10/01/2015 8:54:26 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kenny
FDR made a great many difficult and ugly decisions – aside from interning Japanese-American citizens and not bombing the railroad tracks to Auschwitz. The ugly decisions were never difficult for FDR. It was doing the right thing that was a challenge for him.
13 posted on 10/01/2015 9:23:38 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: danamco
He also returned a passenger vessel with Jewish refugees back to the gas chambers!!!

Exactly what I would expect from a "progressive". He and Hitler and Stalin were of the same ideological family. Hitler and Stalin were just more consistent and fanatical about it -- and less constrained by a constitution and a democratic system.

14 posted on 10/01/2015 9:26:37 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kenny
FDR made a great many difficult and ugly decisions – aside from interning Japanese-American citizens and not bombing the railroad tracks to Auschwitz.

The ugly decisions were never difficult for FDR. It was doing the right thing that was a challenge for him.

15 posted on 10/01/2015 9:27:19 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Leaning Right
But the Germans had very efficient railroad repair teams

So did the North Koreans. One thing we've learned over the past 60 or so years is that bombing railroad tracks is a very inefficient use of bombs and airplanes. Tracks are too easy to repair, even with semi-skilled labor.

Taking out bridges is more effective, but harder to do.

16 posted on 10/01/2015 12:52:30 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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