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Pope Burnout
Townhall.com ^ | October 1, 2015 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/01/2015 5:19:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: C. Edmund Wright

This word, ‘attack,’ it does not mean what you think it means.


41 posted on 10/01/2015 7:08:22 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I don’t think you fully understand the concept of fantasy and how incredibly appropriate that word is to describe what you post about politics either....


42 posted on 10/01/2015 7:21:09 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

So far you have only made one post that didn’t engender outright, audible laughter.

And #42 wasn’t it.


43 posted on 10/01/2015 7:28:05 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

figures you were once naive enough to be a liberal. That I was never fooled by liberalism, and you were until recently, says it all.

Welcome to the club, but you’re embarrassingly late.


44 posted on 10/01/2015 7:35:00 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Still batting a thousand! Are you here all week? Should I try the veil?


45 posted on 10/01/2015 7:41:43 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Is it just me, or did the Cruz criticism in the last paragraph come off as gratuitous, forced, and totally inappropriate?

It's not just you; it was glaringly forced at least. I mean really where'd that come from?

The author is railing on Francis for "weighing in on hot button issues" and how he "pontificated about climate change. He lectured on illegal immigration. He harped on the harshness of capitalism, as well as abortion and capital punishment." but then goes on to hope that we don't get "a priest in the role of Bernie Sanders or Ted Cruz, dressed in ancient Roman miter and vestments, addressing hot-button issues with divine sanction?"

Talk about disjointed. Do you or do you want him to talk about conservative issues too Victor Davis Hanson?

Actually he (VDH) should be forgiven for this rant. He's like most these days who are sadly on both the left AND the right. He seems to want the Pope (and indeed all Christian leaders or faithful) to leave their Faith in the church (building). He doesn't seem to get that (at least Catholics) Christians are to live their faith in the public square, guiding their politics BY their faith.

One can like or dislike what the Pope has said and done on his most recent trip, but to criticize him for merely speaking his mind guided by his Faith; quite frankly that's anti-Christian. It's pure secularism for him to suggest the Pope (or anyone else) has no "right" to speak about anything but religious matters.

Again, true Christianity doesn't just stop at the world of politics, in fact it does the opposite: barges in with ideas and proposals (hopefully) grounded in Christian Tradition. Barges in to change the world for the better. Again one can criticize what Francis said specifically, challenging what he said wasn't really "grounded" in anything but leftism, but to say he shouldn't be a part of politics at all? That's what the leftists want: Christian leaders OUT of politics cornered "in the church" on Sunday's where they won't "hurt" anyone.

I'd only ask him one thing: Should Kim Davis just shut up too?

46 posted on 10/01/2015 8:10:41 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Mr. K

Francis lost his moral bearings when he asked for the end of the death penalty for the culprits of heinous crimes in U.S. while in Cuba he gave moral support to the murderers of political dissidents for the crime of demanding from the Stalinist regime freedom y respect of human rights.

Although the Pope visited common criminals in American jails; he did not visited in Cuba the political prisoners of conscience imprisoned in Castro’s dungeons.

Castro’s infamous firing squads were legitimatized by the Pope went he to present his respects to Fidel Castro, the Cuban Stalinist tyrant that enslaved the Cuban people for over 56 years, and after his cordial and friendly visit the Pope publicly reiterated his high esteem for genocide of the Cuban people.


47 posted on 10/01/2015 8:46:26 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Paleo Pete

Illegal immigration, same sex marriage, “climate change” are all issues that should be dealt with by governments, not religious leaders.

So Franklin Graham or Robert Jeffress have no business commenting on social issues either...?


48 posted on 10/01/2015 11:06:13 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: C. Edmund Wright

your smart ass snark was uncalled for - and frankly above your pay grade.

So, you pose a question with two possible solutions, and someone responds with one of the solutions you yourself posited...and you think it shows uncalled for snark...?

If you were going to be pissed off if someone said ‘It’s just you’, why did you invite it as a possible response...?


49 posted on 10/01/2015 11:58:42 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

It’s called a rhetorical question.....Google it. You’ll understand.

But there was more than just an answer to it.


50 posted on 10/01/2015 1:22:12 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: IrishBrigade

It’s called a rhetorical question.....Google it. You’ll understand.

But there was more than just an answer to it. BTW WTF are you doing in the middle of this anyway. This does NOT concern you.


51 posted on 10/01/2015 1:23:01 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Kaslin

People will never come to a saving knowledge of eternal life as long as they’re told God loves them. That is not the gospel message.


52 posted on 10/01/2015 1:32:34 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

BTW WTF are you doing in the middle of this anyway. This does NOT concern you.

Hey just responding to an illogical post on an open online forum...happens all the time, really...


53 posted on 10/01/2015 2:26:51 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

most folks either stick to the topic of the article or respond to posts sent to them...buttinskyism is not standard. Happens, but it’s poor form .


54 posted on 10/01/2015 2:43:42 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: IrishBrigade

There is a big difference between commenting on and trying to influence governments. The pope is meddling in politics, not just commenting.


55 posted on 10/01/2015 3:46:00 PM PDT by Paleo Pete (I'm with the bomb squad. If you see me running, CATCH UP!)
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To: Kaslin

“He was talking about the environment and that it should be saved......”

And what,pray tell, are the “issues” with the environment today if not globull warming? And since he also trashed the capitalism economic model the link is easily and incontrovertibly made to his globull warming rant.

The Pope is responsible for speaking of Church doctrine, not getting involved in bullsh*t political discussions.


56 posted on 10/02/2015 1:22:01 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

We saw in U.S. Pope Francis incarnated in the classic corrupt Latin American demagogue faking extreme humility to cover a totalitarian mindset. For Francis, the U.S. and the capitalism system are the main responsible for the exploitation and misery in Latin America. In U.S. he condemned the death penalty of vicious criminals who enjoyed so much protection that the law conferred almost unlimited appeals taking decades to finally be applied the sentence.

In Cuba we saw another Francis, despicable, heartless, unmoral, cynic, making fun of the Cuban tragedy while embracing the Castro brothers responsible for the death of tens of thousands of innocent Cubans, and the imprisonment of hundreds of thousands political prisoners, while more of 20% of the population was forced to go in exile-more of 30,000 died trying to cross the Florida straits in makeshift rafts in their quest for freedom. In Cuba Francis did not dare to condemn the death penalty condoning with his cowardly silence the thousands of political prisoners murdered by the Stalinist regime for the crime of demanding freedom and respect for the human rights of the enslaved Cuban people. After being judged by Kangaroo tribunals al style of Stalin’s, the Cubans patriots were put to death by Castro’s infamous firing squads in less than 24 hours, many were martyrs of the faith that died shouting Long life Christ the King! and Viva Cuba libre.!


57 posted on 10/03/2015 7:49:28 PM PDT by Dqban22
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