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Only Assad Truly Fighting Islamic State, Putin Says
Assyrian International News Agency ^ | 2015-09-29 | Michael Wilner

Posted on 09/30/2015 8:54:22 AM PDT by xzins

NEW YORK -- Defending Bashar Assad as the only "legitimate" leader of the Syrian state, Russian President Vladimir Putin recommitted Moscow's support to his government on Monday in a speech to the United Nations.

In his first address to the assembly hall in a decade, Putin chided western powers for their efforts to undermine Assad, who has presided over a country now four and a half years enmeshed in violent civil war. According to the UN, over 210,000 Syrians have died since 2011, and half of the country's population has been displaced.

"We should finally acknowledge that no one but President Assad's Armed Forces and Kurd militia are truly fighting the Islamic State," Putin said. Warning that foreign fighters recruited from Islamic State may one day return home to Europe and Russia, he added: "We cannot allow these criminals who tasted blood to return home."

"The situation is more than dangerous," Putin said. "In these circumstances, it is hypocritical and irresponsible to make loud declarations about the threat of international terrorism while turning a blind eye to the channels of financing and supporting terrorists."

Putin is attempting to lead an anti-Islamic State coalition built around Assad, beginning with an effort to walk countries back from their calls for his departure. In the last month, Russia has begun a significant forward deployment of Russian military equipment on newly-built Russian military bases in Western Syria.

In his speech, Putin suggested a United Nations Security Council resolution that would authorize the fight against Islamic State-- and condemn all efforts to suppress it.

US President Barack Obama rejected Russia's strategy on Monday, warning that any military escalation would further destabilize the region. He also reiterated his assertion that Assad had lost "legitimacy" as ruler of Syria.

Nevertheless, Obama also called for a realist "compromise" with Russia and Iran that will definitively end the fighting.

Putin took aim at the United States with several veiled references to the policies of the Bush administration. He condemned efforts by the former Soviet Union to export its ideological governing model abroad, and chided the United States for its own efforts to spread democracy around the world.

"We should all remember what our past has taught us," Putin said. "We also remember certain episodes from the history of the Soviet Union. 'Social experiments' for export, attempts to push for changes within other countries based on ideological preferences, often led to tragic consequences and to degradation rather than progress."

"It seems, however, that far from learning from others' mistakes, everyone just keeps repeating them," he continued. "And so the export of revolutions, this time of so-called 'democratic' ones, continues."

But Obama continued that effort in his own speech earlier that morning.

"It's not simply a matter of principle; it's not an abstraction," Obama said. "Democracy-- inclusive democracy-- makes countries stronger."


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: astroturf; egypt; iran; israel; lebanon; obama; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianstooges; syria; vladtheimploder; waronterror
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To: silverleaf

Okay, and if they join the coalition, let them kill ISIS, not opponents of Assad, Putin’s proxy.


61 posted on 09/30/2015 1:12:53 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: lavaroise

France has just opened up war crimes hearings on Assad.

So we will see. We don’t know if Russia even bombed ISIS today, they claim that.

I would not trust the works of Russia or their ally Assad here, I’m not saying its all bad.


62 posted on 09/30/2015 1:19:43 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: silverleaf

Oh sure, they’ve controlled whole parts of the country and they are responsible for killing Americans enrolled in ISIS but no, all of the rebels are radicalized.


63 posted on 09/30/2015 1:21:07 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: elhombrelibre

You think ISIS are the only bad guys? You think the US supported “FSA” are good guys? You think anyone can tell them apart on the ground and from the air? You think a Syrian Christian or Alawite can tell them apart? What tribes are the FSA? What religions?

Take a look through this. Notice the implications of FSA kidnapping women and children as hostages - and using them in staged CW attacks in 2013, which were then used to justify us entering the war!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzLVfdrQRsY


64 posted on 09/30/2015 1:21:35 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: BeadCounter

The UN has already investigated the use of CW in Syria, and found that most likely they were used by regime opponents to draw the western powers into the war.

Bring it on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXmzBFyXvVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzLVfdrQRsY


65 posted on 09/30/2015 1:25:37 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: All

Investigation of Regime: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/world/europe/france-investigates-syria-torture-bashar-assad.html


66 posted on 09/30/2015 1:27:47 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: All

A lot of people, read Lebanese newspapers say Assad doesn’t fight ISIS, now Russia may not fight ISIS as well.

http://www.naharnet.com/ Lebanon is right there, so agree or not, it’s interesting to read what they have to say, they have biases but I think they may not be that big.


67 posted on 09/30/2015 1:30:10 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: WENDLE
Where is ‘NO bomba”?

Fear not. Our Dear Leader has his finger on the switch. And when he hits it,.............

.............the Whole White House is gonna light up in rainbow colors!

68 posted on 09/30/2015 1:45:30 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: xzins
"Since it isn’t clear, ..."

The knowledge of the Prophets was far different from the beliefs of religions today.

Isaiah 43:11

Zechariah 14:9

Malachi 3:6

"I would be leery of anyone who claimed to have it exactly pinned down."

..."exactly pinned down" in the sense of the Greco-Roman abstract concept of perfection? That didn't come from my mind.


69 posted on 09/30/2015 1:51:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

The first is about salvation, the 2nd ‘armageddon’, and the 3rd about our changeless God.

If you have something pinned down, then just say it. Coyness is not a place others can take a stand behind what you have to say.


70 posted on 09/30/2015 2:08:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: HandyDandy

71 posted on 09/30/2015 2:14:45 PM PDT by keat
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To: silverleaf; All
Instead of the triumph of democracy and progress, we got violence, poverty and social disaster — and nobody cares a bit about human rights, including the right to life. I cannot help asking those who have forced that situation: Do you realize what you have done?”

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin to Barrack Hussein Obama
United Nations General Assembly
September 28, 2015

72 posted on 09/30/2015 2:18:01 PM PDT by keat
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To: xzins

You missed on the second one. There’s nothing about “armageddon” in that verse in at least nine of the bibles of your religion including the King James.

Zechariah 14:9

Remember that my point was that today’s religions are far different from the beliefs of the Prophets. That’s why people of today’s religions cannot begin to understand them.


73 posted on 09/30/2015 2:23:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins

Make that at least eight of the bibles of your religion. I found eight with no mention of “armageddon” in that verse. It says essentially the same thing that Isaiah 43:11 does and tells of the end of the last vestige of idolatry.

Zechariah 14:9


74 posted on 09/30/2015 2:32:17 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: BeadCounter

Not this carp again

An honest investigation will find atrocities all around and the worst may NOT be by the Syrian government

Now, may we see an investigation of iran , North Korea , Libya, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen, for starters


75 posted on 09/30/2015 2:50:11 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: xzins

Simplifying statement: Assad is the ONLY one who protects Christians in Syria!!!!

Moreover, Assad is the one who maintained the peace that enabled ALL the religious and ethnic groups in Syria to live together amicably.

Yes, Assad is a dictator. Once again, the obama/Hillary/Samantha World Power/Kerry/McCain cabal intervened in a country to “overthrow a dictator.”

The result has been an impossible war, the emergence of ISIS, and the slaughter of thousand of Christians. Even our “allies” in Syria are Christian-killing thugs!!

ADVANTAGE: Putin and Assad!!!!


76 posted on 09/30/2015 3:26:06 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: familyop

I was looking at the entire passage. The Zech passage is commonly looked at as an Armageddon passage in evangelical Christianity.

So, what are you saying? What is your message?


77 posted on 09/30/2015 5:02:30 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: Honorary Serb

Same thing in Serbia.


78 posted on 09/30/2015 5:13:21 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins
"So, what are you saying? What is your message?"

Descendants of nations were against G-d's plan for Israel and now may feel compelled further toward that direction.


79 posted on 09/30/2015 5:42:25 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

You talking about Syria?


80 posted on 09/30/2015 5:51:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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