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Is There Any Precedent in History for Donald Trump?
Townhall.com ^ | September 29, 2015 | Michael Barone

Posted on 09/29/2015 5:14:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

In November 1964 a crowd of 5,000 attended the opening of the Verrazano Narrows Bridge, then the longest suspension bridge in the world. Presiding were New York Mayor Robert Wagner, Gov. Nelson Rockefeller and transportation and parks czar Robert Moses. Also in the crowd was a teenager named Donald Trump.

Trump later told a New York Times reporter that he remembered that on that occasion no one mentioned the name of 85-year-old Othmar Ammann, designer of New York's famous bridges for more than 50 years. "I realized then and there that if you let people treat you how they want, you'll be made a fool," he told the Times. "I don't want to be anyone's sucker."

That helps explain why Trump has plastered his name on his hotels and private airliner. But it also raises this question: What was Donald Trump, an 18-year-old Fordham freshman, doing in a select crowd of celebrities?

The answer is that Trump's entire life has been marinated in politics. His father, Fred Trump, made millions building apartments in Brooklyn and Queens. It didn't hurt, when it came to land assembly and public subsidies, that he was a key supporter of Brooklyn machine Democrats and a close friend and ally of Abraham Beame, city comptroller in 1964 and later mayor.

A decade later Donald Trump, at 28, basically took over the family business and focused it elsewhere. New York City, plagued by violent crime and high taxes, lost 1 million people in the 1970s. Building apartments in the outer boroughs was looking like a sucker's game. Getting a toehold in Manhattan at the market's trough, to profit when it glittered again, looked like -- and was -- a winner.

It helped that Beame was elected mayor in 1973 and that Hugh Carey, for whom the Trump family provided major financial backing when he was an underdog in the primary, was elected governor in 1974. Donald Trump wangled a stake in the Commodore Hotel next to Grand Central Station using, as big developers do, OPM (other people's money) with key assists from the Beame and Carey administrations.

Trump's lavish self-praise and wild unpredictability, masking his long developed political acumen, makes him seem a unique political figure in American history. But maybe not completely unique.

Newt Gingrich compares him to Andrew Jackson, rich and smarter than generally thought, but regarded as a dangerous wild man by his predecessors Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and James Monroe. They were justifiably worried: President Jackson abolished the Bank of the United States, which the latter two supported, and, with the Indian Removal Act, ruthlessly shipped Native Americans West in a way Jefferson, Madison and Monroe never contemplated.

Another comparison is to Huey Long, the Louisiana governor and senator whose "Every Man a King" became a national bestseller. Franklin Roosevelt regarded him as a dangerous, possibly fascist rival. New Deal historians say FDR supported redistributionist taxes and Social Security to outflank him.

Long was a brilliant man who built a Mississippi River bridge, a state capitol and Louisiana State University in just months' time. It would be tantalizing to know what voters at the time thought of him. Unfortunately, he was murdered in September 1935, a month before Dr. Gallup conducted the first random sample scientific poll.

I submit another as Trump's precedent, a man on that podium in November 1964: Nelson Rockefeller. Rockefeller was considered an establishment Republican, but he operated entirely, as the title of Richard Norton Smith's magisterial and compelling biography of him says, "On His Own Terms."

He was sometimes lavishly liberal (his Medicaid program spent one-quarter of national funds), sometimes harshly conservative (mandatory sentences for drug offenses). He spent enormous sums building Albany's Capitol Mall and a state university system intended to rival California's. He raised taxes so much that someone said he spends the people's money as if it were his own.

Rockefeller was richer than Trump, a more gifted art and architecture patron and less given to boasting. He had a much longer public career, from running FDR's Latin American desk to being Gerald Ford's vice president. But through all that, he was regarded by insiders as an unguided missile, not subject to institutional constraint, seeking power to do whatever he wanted. Rockefeller was elected governor when Donald Trump was 12 and served until Trump was 27 and about to make his jump to Manhattan.

On that day at the bridge opening in 1964, did that 18-year-old freshman see a role model on the dais?


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1 posted on 09/29/2015 5:14:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Barone analysis, sans emotion, ping ...


2 posted on 09/29/2015 5:18:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Kaslin

Moses was the true autocrat on the dais.


3 posted on 09/29/2015 5:24:55 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Kaslin

Huey Long, Nelson Rockefeller and Andrew Jackson. Interesting trio there Mr. Baron.
I await the next two comparisons with baited breath. Especially if Trump wins two or more early primaries.


4 posted on 09/29/2015 5:25:24 AM PDT by Tupelo (Trump is no Reagan, but by God he is a fighter.)
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To: Kaslin

2008.


5 posted on 09/29/2015 5:27:34 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I dont see Trump being a Rockefeller republican.

And the Verrazano was named after an Italian :) But his name actually had two Zs.

I can see it from my house.


6 posted on 09/29/2015 5:28:59 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: Kaslin

Linus’ teacher is Miss Othmar. Any relation to Othmar Ammann?


7 posted on 09/29/2015 5:29:01 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin

Precedent?

Sure...He’s in the WH NOW... ‘Mr. Long Shot’ that no one anticipated or expected to succeed....

Except..the PRESENT Mr. Long Shot in the WH is a moron who is WAAAAY out of his element and couldn’t figure out a tax plan (or anything else)if his life depended on it and who is manipulated and owned by a bunch of malicious, anti-American losers.


8 posted on 09/29/2015 5:33:35 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: Kaslin

I’m trying to think of someone who has similar hair.


9 posted on 09/29/2015 5:34:53 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Is that your only concern?


10 posted on 09/29/2015 5:36:02 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Barone analysis, sans emotion, ping ...

...and yet, there will be emotion in the responses, personal shots at Barone, and of course absolutely no addressing the fact that this is a well connected crony family going back many many decades. NONE.

11 posted on 09/29/2015 5:36:10 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Kaslin

Precedent: Ronald Reagan—the movie actor who became President!!!!


12 posted on 09/29/2015 5:37:27 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Kaslin
Is that your only concern?

Yes.

13 posted on 09/29/2015 5:39:26 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Kaslin

Of course... there’s H. Ross Perot.


14 posted on 09/29/2015 5:40:47 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Kaslin

For someone who improbably turned things around, how about Lech Walesa in Poland?


15 posted on 09/29/2015 5:42:25 AM PDT by grania
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To: Servant of the Cross

Huey Long is a comparison that can only be viewed as an attack.

Andrew Jackson, Rockefeller, and those New Yorkers sound fairly neutral.

Hillary and Joe and Bernie compare favorably to Evita Peron, Mad King Ludwig, and Stalin. I don’t suppose anyone will write that article.


16 posted on 09/29/2015 5:43:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

ok


17 posted on 09/29/2015 5:45:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Honorary Serb
Precedent: Ronald Reagan—the movie actor who became President!!!!

yeah, about 30 years after his acting career and Democrat dalliances....not 30 minutes.

18 posted on 09/29/2015 5:46:26 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Servant of the Cross
It depends on what exactly he's asking about if there are others that Trump can be compared to.

Andrew Jackson had some political experience, but he wasn't elected for that. He was elected due to a) Martin Van Buren's incredible political machine, and b) Jackson's war record. (I doubt if many electors back then even knew he was a senator). Lincoln---forget for a moment the President Lincoln and look at 1860 candidate Lincoln---had very little political experience. A House term, and a couple of terms in the IL House. Several failed races. A total unknown going into the convention.

The Rockefeller comparison is flat-out wrong. Rockefeller ran entirely against "the people," certainly espoused NOTHING they wanted. He was, from beginning to end, the GOPe insider. Trump is entirely the outsider, and has greatly profited from that underdog status. Indeed, it is remarkable that a billionaire can achieve an underdog status, but he does so by constantly siding with the conservative rank and file on most issues, particularly those they seem most immediately concerned about, namely immigration, guns, and taxes.

Where he IS like Jackson is in his forthright speech. "The Bank is a monster, sir, and I will kill it!" and telling Calhoun that he would hang him if he continued to oppose the Tariff of Abominations (which Calhoun himself wrote).

Trump represents a complete rejection of the notion that the political "experts" know what they are doing. Even if (and I don't think this is at all what he says) Trump's approach is "we can do things smarter" at the very least the message most Americans hear is, "We who have run businesses can at least do things better than the idiots who never worked for a living."

He is, like Jackson and TR and Truman and Reagan waging a war on speech-codes and obfuscation. But most of all, like TR and Jackson and Reagan, he is a man of action. Of course no one knows if that action can translate into political action, but at least he has a track record whereas, unfortunately, Rubio, Cruz, Paul all have a record to the present of being unable to do anything but protest, while the governors have not convinced anyone that their actions at much lower levels will translate to a bigger stage.

So, in short, no. We haven't ever seen anyone like Trump.

19 posted on 09/29/2015 5:46:28 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Servant of the Cross

18 replies, 0 responses to anything substantive. I’m shocked.....


20 posted on 09/29/2015 5:47:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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