Posted on 09/28/2015 5:23:47 PM PDT by Kaslin
Who wrote,
"Such large return of investment, on such small investment in fact?"
He was claiming large amounts of water on the scale of oceans surrounding Mars.
Question is, without a real water cycle, how does water get back to higher elevations, especially in quantities sufficient to produce big flows?
Found it, article from 2000 talking about seepage on Mars.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/press-water.html
This is different from his Mars has oceans history. Boy it has been a long time since I went to his site. Enjoy.
Take a look at this. The word ocean(s) is mentioned at least 48 times in this paper.
A NEW MODEL OF MARS AS A FORMER CAPTURED SATELLITE:
BI-MODAL DISTRIBUTION OF KEY FEATURES DUE TO ANCIENT TIDAL STRESS?
Richard C. Hoagland (Principal Investigator, Enterprise Mission)
Michael Bara (Executive Director, Formal Action Committee on Extraterrestrial Studies).
http://www.enterprisemission.com/tides.htm
(excerpts)
A revaluation of Mars ancient history is therefore proposed, suggesting that Mars (well after solar system formation) was captured into synchronous orbital lock with a larger planetary companion (“Planet V”), accounting for the clustering of present day water bursts around the former beds of two bi-modally distributed “Mars ancient oceans” as a direct result.
Valles Marineris (as an eroded ancient tidal bore, formed immediately post-capture); the presence of the extremely flat terrain covering the northern hemisphere (via deposited sediments from the once tidally supported oceans, when released);
Recently published research showing unprecedented outflow channels from the Tharsis and Arabia bulges are shown to be consistent with the sudden relaxation of the two tidal oceans, as is the sculpting of huge amounts of material by fluvial processes north of the Arabia bulge.
Here’s another!
Once Again, NASA Confirms the Bara/Hoagland Mars Tidal Model
http://mikebara.blogspot.com/2013/03/once-again-nasa-confirms-barahoagland.html
A new paper published in the journal Science confirms once again the validity of the Mars Tidal Model first proposed by myself and Richard C. Hoagland in 2001. In our paper, we hypothesized a vast liquid water ocean on the surface of Mars which was held in place by a tidal lock arrangement between Mars, which was originally a moon, and its parent planet, known as “Planet V” or “Maldek” as I called it in my book The Choice.
That one with the straw looks pretty refreshing.
Kermit says it ain’t easy being green but Sir Hugh seems to be enjoying it.
Freak alert
Can we send these people to Mars? They look more like aliens than half of the aliens on “Star Trek”.
I read another article that might interest you.
The “water” in this story does not run freely, but moves slowly downward through the surface soil, which, presumably, is heated by solar radiation
The average daily temp is minus-10 F., and the atmospheric pressure is very low, so any significant extraction of liquid water on the surface will be really difficult.
And, the source of the water is still unknown.
Also, it is located only at high elevations, with very steep inclines, which would make human access quite difficult.
The discovery is interesting, but, as usual, NASA seems to have over hyped it.
And, the source of the water is still unknown.
If there is anything I learned about scientific inquiry in space (from watching Star Trek and Lost in Space) it is that we won't learn the source until after the commercial break.
Plus, check your shirt color before agreeing to go on an away mission.
PHHT!
You ‘next generation’ types and your “away teams”!
Red was the ‘command color’ on that show.
In my day, we had LANDING PARTIES! And command wore GOLD!
Unless it was Tuesday. Then, The Kirk wore his ‘muscley’ green wrap-around in order to impress the six-foot orange women in steel brassieres on Planet Playtex.
Uh...yuck...
NASA to Announce ‘Significant Findings’ of Water on Mars Tuesday! [3/1/2004]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1088571/posts
my first FR post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1051021/posts?page=8#8
They had better be careful, the EPA will declare it a ‘Wetland’ and not allow any human actions to disturb it.......................
Would make a great golf course................the sand traps would be awesome...........................
Percival Lovell is vindicated!....................
So you had to be wrong in your very first post. LOL
In all seriousness the main reason we’ve lost so many of the mars probes is the fact that there was no one on board to make corrections in real time.
However there is still no really compelling reason to send men to mars yet. We need better robots doing far more in depth science and covering more ground first.
If we want to send men to space, lets get a continuously manned station on the moon first.
Hey, if a robot can’t be sent reliably, no one in their right mind would get in the thing. Plus, realtime corrections would rely on the computers available, and if a robotic probe doesn’t have a computer good enough, neither would a human. So, I’m right again. [horn flourish]
You GOT THAT one!!
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